LOL if a newbe came in here to this fourm new to the UPC faith the pour soul would be so confused. Yall are killing me cannot help but laugh
KWSS, at the risk of sounding judgmental, it would be hard to reach most that post on this forum. Reason, they believe their understand is correct. I too fall into this category.
This forum is not for newbe's coming into the UPCI faith. You are correct. It would do more harm than good. If that was the case I would direct the person to a oneness church in the area where they live. They need one pastor NOT several.
For those that are on here. Iron sharpeneth iron and paper gets torn up and tossed aside.
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I was showing that Jesus is Lord. So in Acts 10:48 "he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord" is just like Matthew 28:19. What is the name.
The Bible states that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
If the Word of God is true then at that time everyone will know.
His name is Jesus.
OK, so "Lord" is a title. A title belonging to Jesus. Just like "the Father", "the Son", and "the Holy Spirit" are Jesus's titles in Matt 28:19. Is that right?
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OK, so "Lord" is a title. A title belonging to Jesus. Just like "the Father", "the Son", and "the Holy Spirit" are Jesus's titles in Matt 28:19. Is that right?
Yes. From my studing the word Lord used in Acts refers to a title.
In the Old Testament it appears that LORD was how he was refered to as in name.
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LOL if a newbe came in here to this fourm new to the UPC faith the pour soul would be so confused. Yall are killing me cannot help but laugh
I would not recommend any new person coming to this website! As I would not recommend anyone that is new in whatever church goign to a place of contention and confusion.
I would not recommend any new person coming to this website! As I would not recommend anyone that is new in whatever church goign to a place of contention and confusion.
Sounds like some churches!
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Acts 8:16 16 For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
My dear friend this is describing how they were baptized.
Maybe my post wasn't clear enough. I'll try again.
We know what Peter said when he ministered healing in Acts chapter 3 when he said, "in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk."
We know what Paul said when he cast out a demon in Acts 16 when he said, "I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her."
But, we have no place in our KJV New Testament where a baptism is described like that and where the person administering the ritual is actually quoted.
I personally believe that the name Jesus should be spoken or invoked. I do not think it negates the baptism if titles (like Lord and/or Christ) are added to the name.
In the AESV Bible in Acts 15 it mentions pouring water three times on the person in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost but again, this is a reference to baptism. It does not describe the ritual being done and does not quote the words used.
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Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
If your asking.. is being baptised in the titles the same as being baptised in the Name.. then the answer in no.
The Name is Jesus.. his titles are many. Repentance coupled with water baptism in Jesus name is the only way the blood cleanses us from sin and redeems are fallen nature.
Hate to tell you this, but you cannot redeem yourself. Jesus has already done this for you 2K years ago at Calvary. If baptism could save you, you wouldn't need the cross.
Yes. From my studing the word Lord used in Acts refers to a title.
In the Old Testament it appears that LORD was how he was refered to as in name.
In the Old Testament, some versions like the KJV use the word "LORD" in capitals wherever the name YHWH (yud heh vav heh) appears in the Hebrew. God's name by which He revealed Himself and the name He used in relation to His covenant people in the Old Testament is YHWH. We don't know how it was pronounced but we can assume the first two syllables were "Yeho" because those syllables are used in names of people which incorporate the YHWH.
In the New Testament, the word kurios is used for Lord. As in English it can mean Lord as in a title like they use in England where a person may have that title. We would say a person is "Lord of the manor" to designate that he is head of the house. It can also mean the Lord as Deity.
In case anyone does not know what the Lord's name is, Saul asked Him that in Acts chapter 9. Saul said, "Who art thou Lord?" so the Lord told him who He is. The Lord said, "I am Jesus."
There are some Oneness people that teach that the name of the Father is Lord, the name of the Son is Jesus, and the name of the Holy Ghost is Christ. According to this teaching, those three words "Lord" plus "Jesus" plus "Christ" are really one name and God's name is "Lord Jesus Christ." To other Oneness people, teaching that God has three names, "Lord Jesus Christ" and that these three names are really one name, is just about the same as trinitarianism.
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Sam also known as Jim Ellis
Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
OK, so "Lord" is a title. A title belonging to Jesus. Just like "the Father", "the Son", and "the Holy Spirit" are Jesus's titles in Matt 28:19. Is that right?
Maybe my post wasn't clear enough. I'll try again.
We know what Peter said when he ministered healing in Acts chapter 3 when he said, "in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk."
We know what Paul said when he cast out a demon in Acts 16 when he said, "I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her."
But, we have no place in our KJV New Testament where a baptism is described like that and where the person administering the ritual is actually quoted.
I personally believe that the name Jesus should be spoken or invoked. I do not think it negates the baptism if titles (like Lord and/or Christ) are added to the name.
In the AESV Bible in Acts 15 it mentions pouring water three times on the person in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost but again, this is a reference to baptism. It does not describe the ritual being done and does not quote the words used.
Sam, do you think the Word of God is real or make believe? I was clear on my answer to your clear question. You are looking for an easy way out and it's not there. Both of us can go back and forth with items from the Bible on what & how WE think it should be. How do you think they were baptized according to the example in Acts 19:5. No the Bible does not say what wording was used. But it did give a name which was applied. Were not talking about the wording used but the NAME APPLIED. I don't care if one says, Jimmy all is well and good I now baptize you in the name of Jesus. It comes down to the NAME. Should they say according to you "I baptize you in the name of--------------" JESUS, that is fine also.
My friend you need to get out of so many different bibles. Do I use different bibles to study. Sometimes. But I never let them cloud my understand of the truth. Truth is no where in the word can you show me a baptism (by any wording) that used the title F, S, HG.
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