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11-24-2008, 07:35 PM
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Re: JAKES Announces New CBS Talk show in '09!!!
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
You're making a semantic argument to avoid the point. Graham didn't preach psycho babble junk. He always preached a salvational message whether you agree with it or not.
Jakes doesn't preach Acts 2:38 any more than Graham did. That is all beside the point |
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11-24-2008, 07:47 PM
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Re: JAKES Announces New CBS Talk show in '09!!!
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
hmmm... I would have to think on that one. If Dominion Theory is as you define then perhaps I too believe in it.
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Secre Warrior,
I thought Dominion Theology was the idea that Christians ought to take over the government and turn the country into a Christian theocracy as promoted by Pat Robertson and others. Is Dominion Theory different from that?
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11-24-2008, 07:48 PM
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Re: JAKES Announces New CBS Talk show in '09!!!
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Originally Posted by StMark
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For those of you on this forum who don't even think Jakes is saved (and from what I have seen, there are plenty) why do you even care?
I find it amusing that people will rip another person to shreds who doesn't believe exactly as they do, put them straight in hell, but continue to talk about every move they make.
Sometimes I think people are just looking for something to criticize.
Interesting thing - the doers, i.e. Olsteen, Jakes, and others aren't spending their time here criticizing you folks, they're out doing what they feel called to do.
Maybe some of us could take a lesson?
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11-24-2008, 07:49 PM
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Re: JAKES Announces New CBS Talk show in '09!!!
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
You're making a semantic argument to avoid the point. Graham didn't preach psycho babble junk. He always preached a salvational message whether you agree with it or not.
Jakes doesn't preach Acts 2:38 any more than Graham did. That is all beside the point |
I'm not "avoiding the point", Prax. I made my point.
You're the one, in responding to what I originally posted, who's trying to take a part of what I said to make it into your own point.
Let me be clear on one thing: I'm not particularly a fan of either one of these two. But although Jakes doesn't preach Acts 2:38 as taught in most Apostolic/UPC churches etc, he does teach Holy Ghost baptism speaking with tongues, and he does teach baptize in Jesus name. He's A LOT closer to biblical truth than Billy Graham is.
It's interesting that you're spending all this time bashing Jakes, while elevating Billy Graham, as if Graham is supposed to be some anointed minister of the New Testament gospel. Feel free to do a little research on this.... Perhaps if you truly understood what Billy Graham has taught over the years, you might not think as hightly of him as you do.
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11-24-2008, 07:53 PM
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Re: JAKES Announces New CBS Talk show in '09!!!
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Originally Posted by Refugee
For those of you on this forum who don't even think Jakes is saved (and from what I have seen, there are plenty) why do you even care?
I find it amusing that people will rip another person to shreds who doesn't believe exactly as they do, put them straight in hell, but continue to talk about every move they make.
Sometimes I think people are just looking for something to criticize.
Interesting thing - the doers, i.e. Olsteen, Jakes, and others aren't spending their time here criticizing you folks, they're out doing what they feel called to do.
Maybe some of us could take a lesson?
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Yeah like someone criticizing someone for criticizing someone else? 
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11-24-2008, 07:55 PM
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Re: JAKES Announces New CBS Talk show in '09!!!
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Originally Posted by A_PoMo
Secre Warrior,
I thought Dominion Theology was the idea that Christians ought to take over the government and turn the country into a Christian theocracy as promoted by Pat Robertson and others. Is Dominion Theory different from that?
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For me it's not about "taking over the government"... but rather influencing, while knowing we will always be on the narrow path.
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11-24-2008, 07:56 PM
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Matthew 7:6
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Re: JAKES Announces New CBS Talk show in '09!!!
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Originally Posted by steve p
Wonderful even-keeled, level-headed post. I do appreciate your comments.
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
I very much believe Billy Graham preached the gospel.
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I guess most 1-steppers will feel that way.
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11-24-2008, 07:59 PM
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Re: JAKES Announces New CBS Talk show in '09!!!
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Yeah like someone criticizing someone for criticizing someone else? |
Sorry if I stepped on your toes, cneasttx, just stating my opinion.
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11-24-2008, 08:08 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: JAKES Announces New CBS Talk show in '09!!!
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
I was speaking of TD Jakes' "IF".
IF this is the will of GOd for him, time will prove it, if not, time will disprove it.
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Right. Im saying that is not how anyone should gauge what the will of God is, even for someone else. There are some constants and absolutes. Just can't be avoided
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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11-24-2008, 08:09 PM
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Re: JAKES Announces New CBS Talk show in '09!!!
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
DUDE! Where you been?
I moved to Omaha in March of 2007!
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Man, am I ever behind the times. Found a good church yet? Got a couple of great friends that pastor there I think you would like.
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