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Old 09-09-2008, 04:57 PM
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We make her sit on the back corner pew, and refuse to let her play the tambourine, even though she really wants to. We do let her use the bathroom, though, if she pays a quarter.
See told you that there would be an issue..


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Oh come on...How do you THINK Oneness folk would treat a little girl regardless of her name? Do you think they would SHUN her ...maybe openly humiliate and taunt her? Brother what is it with you having such a low esteem for your own brethren?
From the ignorance displayed by many oneness people I have met....yeah, JT asks a good question. I would bet that someone would/has already said something to the little girl.
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Old 09-09-2008, 05:13 PM
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Oh come on...How do you THINK Oneness folk would treat a little girl regardless of her name? Do you think they would SHUN her ...maybe openly humiliate and taunt her? Brother what is it with you having such a low esteem for your own brethren?
Sir/Ma'am let me ask you a question. Would you do business with anything or any company that had the name Trinity in it? Such as Trinity Plumbing or similar names? I would bet that most of the people(s) on here would not do business with a company like that. That is how twisted this movement has become. Hate for people of like fatih because the sign above the church door say Trinity. Hate for the word that speaks to the nature of the one that we are created to worship. It stinks in the nostrils of God, IMO. I know it stinks in mine.

I would do business with anyone of any faith no matter what. You might ask why. Well because we are here to reach people for Him. We can not reach people by constantly pushing them away. We can't help lift them when we are pushing them down either. We say we are messengers for the Kings yet we have our own agendas. We have sold out to a doctrine or a belief system but have forgotten the one which we are to be serving. Selling out to doctrine ain't a bad thing, but we must have the mind, heart, and love of God to get it done. This thread is evidence of people that are hatefilled toward the trinity and those under that heading
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Old 09-09-2008, 05:18 PM
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From the ignorance displayed by many oneness people I have met....yeah, JT asks a good question. I would bet that someone would/has already said something to the little girl.

Why is it always qualified as the ignorance of ONENESS PEOPLE rather than the ignorance of humanity in general? Has anyone else lived in the real world?
People can be pretty (theres that word again that cant seem to get on the group) KRAPPY sometimes, and does anyone REALLY believe that people lose their old human nature when they get in church?

I have been in Oneness Pentecost for over thirty years and see that aside from a class thing, they are no more or less capable of bad behaviour than anyone else.

Thats why the constant self hating Oneness Pentecostal stuff on this group is getting really old really fast!

What kind of treatment (really) was he expecting this little girl to receive? A public flogging followed by a dunking in the local pond with a public stoning in the parking lot for the finale?

IF someone said something to her about her name can you honestly tell me that that same thing would not or could not happen in any one of a thousand different venues? A public school, a girl scout troop, a sleep over at a friends house? Why is this phrased as HOW DID THE ONENESS FOLKS TREAT HER as though it was this monolithic crushing machine of lockstep biddies just waiting to hurt this little girl in anyway they could, showing unfeeling barbarism and harshness ? Why is it that we have to be enquiring about ONENESS PENTECOSTALS rather than some old bitter Mrs Olsen type person who is the way she is REGARDLESS of her take on a godhead doctrine?

I noticed this recently on this group, it seems that the re is a gross inability to distinguish human nature which is by NATURE capable of many slights and insults from some innate ONENESS PENTECOSTAL trait of being ESPECIALLY nasty and mean spirited.

Sorry if it seems I am overdoing my reaction here, but really, take a gander around you at alot of these posts, many of these "Oneness" people actually hate loathe and despise their brethren and lose no opportunity to take pot shots at..........................................THEMSE LVES!
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Old 09-09-2008, 05:24 PM
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Why is it always qualified as the ignorance of ONENESS PEOPLE rather than the ignorance of humanity in general? Has anyone else lived in the real world?
People can be pretty (theres that word again that cant seem to get on the group) KRAPPY sometimes, and does anyone REALLY believe that people lose their old human nature when they get in church?

I have been in Oneness Pentecost for over thirty years and see that aside from a class thing, they are no more or less capable of bad behaviour than anyone else.

Thats why the constant self hating Oneness Pentecostal stuff on this group is getting really old really fast!

What kind of treatment (really) was he expecting this little girl to receive? A public flogging followed by a dunking in the local pond with a public stoning in the parking lot for the finale?

IF someone said something to her about her name can you honestly tell me that that same thing would not or could not happen in any one of a thousand different venues? A public school, a girl scout troop, a sleep over at a friends house? Why is this phrased as HOW DID THE ONENESS FOLKS TREAT HER as though it was this monolithic crushing machine of lockstep biddies just waiting to hurt this little girl in anyway they could, showing unfeeling barbarism and harshness ? Why is it that we have to be enquiring about ONENESS PENTECOSTALS rather than some old bitter Mrs Olsen type person who is the way she is REGARDLESS of her take on a godhead doctrine?

I noticed this recently on this group, it seems that the re is a gross inability to distinguish human nature which is by NATURE capable of many slights and insults from some innate ONENESS PENTECOSTAL trait of being ESPECIALLY nasty and mean spirited.

Sorry if it seems I am overdoing my reaction here, but really, take a gander around you at alot of these posts, many of these "Oneness" people actually hate loathe and despise their brethren and lose no opportunity to take pot shots at..........................................THEMSE LVES!
Here is the pitch....SWING and a miss....strike three...you are out.....sit down.

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Old 09-09-2008, 05:42 PM
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Why is it always qualified as the ignorance of ONENESS PEOPLE rather than the ignorance of humanity in general? Has anyone else lived in the real world?
People can be pretty (theres that word again that cant seem to get on the group) KRAPPY sometimes, and does anyone REALLY believe that people lose their old human nature when they get in church?

I have been in Oneness Pentecost for over thirty years and see that aside from a class thing, they are no more or less capable of bad behaviour than anyone else.

Thats why the constant self hating Oneness Pentecostal stuff on this group is getting really old really fast!

What kind of treatment (really) was he expecting this little girl to receive? A public flogging followed by a dunking in the local pond with a public stoning in the parking lot for the finale?

IF someone said something to her about her name can you honestly tell me that that same thing would not or could not happen in any one of a thousand different venues? A public school, a girl scout troop, a sleep over at a friends house? Why is this phrased as HOW DID THE ONENESS FOLKS TREAT HER as though it was this monolithic crushing machine of lockstep biddies just waiting to hurt this little girl in anyway they could, showing unfeeling barbarism and harshness ? Why is it that we have to be enquiring about ONENESS PENTECOSTALS rather than some old bitter Mrs Olsen type person who is the way she is REGARDLESS of her take on a godhead doctrine?

I noticed this recently on this group, it seems that the re is a gross inability to distinguish human nature which is by NATURE capable of many slights and insults from some innate ONENESS PENTECOSTAL trait of being ESPECIALLY nasty and mean spirited.

Sorry if it seems I am overdoing my reaction here, but really, take a gander around you at alot of these posts, many of these "Oneness" people actually hate loathe and despise their brethren and lose no opportunity to take pot shots at..........................................THEMSE LVES!
I am sure you are correct about everything. I think OP should be held to a higher standard. OP should have the love of God....they really should. I would not be surprised of anything that was said. I know of a OP who refered to "whores" about 15 times in a sermon, knowing that an ex-whore was sitting on the 3rd pew. She eventually went back to Jehovah Witness. It has been my experience that they/we have more argument and controversy than the Charismatics.

They do not fight/have church splits/won't talk to brothers (even blood relatives) over the most stupid things; facial hair, cutting hair, wearing pants, wearing a watch, wearing a wedding band, wearing a necklace.

I befriended a young preacher boy, 22, who is going to UPC and taking there ministers home training course, his own uncle (a OP, who pastors a church in the boys town) will not let the boy preach in his church because he is going to the UPC. I heard the boy and honestly he is the best preacher I have heard in years. His uncle said he could testify from the pew but could not be on the plateform. There are 5 oneness churches in his county. They will not fellowship with each other and all preach against all the others!!!

Is this an extreme example. Sadly No, I think it is typical. And it goes both ways, UPC is just as bad. When I was first starting to preach I was in Nash. area. I was told by a UPC that I could not come to his church and preach because I was not UPC. I politely told him that Peter was the "foundation apostle" and he was not UPC, therefore under those terms he would not be welcome in his UPC church either.

Why? I don't know and I don't understand it?
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I am sure you are correct about everything. I think OP should be held to a higher standard. OP should have the love of God....they really should. I would not be surprised of anything that was said. I know of a OP who refered to "whores" about 15 times in a sermon, knowing that an ex-whore was sitting on the 3rd pew. She eventually went back to Jehovah Witness. It has been my experience that they/we have more argument and controversy than the Charismatics.

They do not fight/have church splits/won't talk to brothers (even blood relatives) over the most stupid things; facial hair, cutting hair, wearing pants, wearing a watch, wearing a wedding band, wearing a necklace.

I befriended a young preacher boy, 22, who is going to UPC and taking there ministers home training course, his own uncle (a OP, who pastors a church in the boys town) will not let the boy preach in his church because he is going to the UPC. I heard the boy and honestly he is the best preacher I have heard in years. His uncle said he could testify from the pew but could not be on the plateform. There are 5 oneness churches in his county. They will not fellowship with each other and all preach against all the others!!!

Is this an extreme example. Sadly No, I think it is typical. And it goes both ways, UPC is just as bad. When I was first starting to preach I was in Nash. area. I was told by a UPC that I could not come to his church and preach because I was not UPC. I politely told him that Peter was the "foundation apostle" and he was not UPC, therefore under those terms he would not be welcome in his UPC church either.

Why? I don't know and I don't understand it?
All too common for sure. I see this in my town there are many churches of the same faith oneness in a 5 mile area and they don't even talk to one another hardly. We kill people in our own family tree cause they ain't us. It is a sick, sick thing.
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Sir/Ma'am let me ask you a question. Would you do business with anything or any company that had the name Trinity in it? Such as Trinity Plumbing or similar names? I would bet that most of the people(s) on here would not do business with a company like that. That is how twisted this movement has become. Hate for people of like fatih because the sign above the church door say Trinity. Hate for the word that speaks to the nature of the one that we are created to worship. It stinks in the nostrils of God, IMO. I know it stinks in mine.

I would do business with anyone of any faith no matter what. You might ask why. Well because we are here to reach people for Him. We can not reach people by constantly pushing them away. We can't help lift them when we are pushing them down either. We say we are messengers for the Kings yet we have our own agendas. We have sold out to a doctrine or a belief system but have forgotten the one which we are to be serving. Selling out to doctrine ain't a bad thing, but we must have the mind, heart, and love of God to get it done. This thread is evidence of people that are hatefilled toward the trinity and those under that heading
JT, I will admit to that. And that it is irrational. I am biased against a business with "trinity" in the name. There is a "trinity" painting here....I would never call them just because of the name.

Does not make sense but I will be honest and admit to it. I'm sure I am not the only one.
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JT, I will admit to that. And that it is irrational. I am biased against a business with "trinity" in the name. There is a "trinity" painting here....I would never call them just because of the name.

Does not make sense but I will be honest and admit to it. I'm sure I am not the only one.
Sure you aren't either...thanks for the honesty...someone oughta be honest about it!

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that name would not bother me...lol
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