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Old 07-22-2008, 01:06 AM
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Maybe because of this ???

This is his teaching on earrings on men - somethings I
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"Okay, now for the history of the earring on a male. In the bible days, it was a symbol of slavery. Slaves were tagged on their ears for identification and ownership. Later, in the Egyptian culture, the mark of 2 earrings or multiple piercings on a male represented bi-sexuality and whoreish behavior. And all the great kings and leaders of Godless civilizations that were lascivious in behavior wore them as this symbol. In the early 70's pimps started wearing 1 earring in the black community as a symbol of slavery to sex. It meant that you were a player and enjoyed multiple sex partners. It was called Macho from the term Machismo which means excessive male or extreme male. This is what the single earring meant and still means. 2 earrings on a man was, and in most cases still is, a symbol of bi-sexuality. And now, since our young black boys are emasculated and becoming very effeminate because of the lack of fathers in the home, the 2 earrings are taking their age old meaning once again. How dare a pentecostal Bishop wear a symbol of macho or "slave to sex"? He is the model and now the weak pastors that have embraced his beliefs will begin to wear these things. God forbid! Don't forget the spirit of these things are still following these ritualistic acts of defiance. Did we forget about the spirit realm? "
StMark, I don't care what HE believes it means. LOL!!!

Some people believe red is the color of whores, but I LOVE red, and I couldn't care less about other folks' idiotic ideas. It could probably be proven that prostitutes in some country, somewhere, at some time wore red or scarlet, but what of it?
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Re: WHEW!!Most SCATHING Article On TD Jakes Ever!

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Maybe because of this ???

This is his teaching on earrings on men - somethings I
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"Okay, now for the history of the earring on a male. In the bible days, it was a symbol of slavery. Slaves were tagged on their ears for identification and ownership. Later, in the Egyptian culture, the mark of 2 earrings or multiple piercings on a male represented bi-sexuality and whoreish behavior. And all the great kings and leaders of Godless civilizations that were lascivious in behavior wore them as this symbol. In the early 70's pimps started wearing 1 earring in the black community as a symbol of slavery to sex. It meant that you were a player and enjoyed multiple sex partners. It was called Macho from the term Machismo which means excessive male or extreme male. This is what the single earring meant and still means. 2 earrings on a man was, and in most cases still is, a symbol of bi-sexuality. And now, since our young black boys are emasculated and becoming very effeminate because of the lack of fathers in the home, the 2 earrings are taking their age old meaning once again. How dare a pentecostal Bishop wear a symbol of macho or "slave to sex"? He is the model and now the weak pastors that have embraced his beliefs will begin to wear these things. God forbid! Don't forget the spirit of these things are still following these ritualistic acts of defiance. Did we forget about the spirit realm? "

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It was also part of the Mosaic law ... an awl was used by commandment ...

Awl - an instrument only referred to in connection with the custom of boring the ear of a slave (Ex. 21:6; Deut. 15:17), in token of his volunteering perpetual service when he might be free. (Comp. Ps. 40:6; Isa. 50:5).
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abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."

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StMark, I don't care what HE believes it means. LOL!!!

Some people believe red is the color of whores, but I LOVE red, and I couldn't care less about other folks' idiotic ideas. It could probably be proven that prostitutes in some country, somewhere, at some time wore red or scarlet, but what of it?

No need in getting cross with me Miss B.

just quoting his teaching on it. If you wanna believe otherwise
and that's okay for men to wear earrings, fine that's your
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No need in getting cross with me Miss B.

just quoting his teaching on it. If you wanna believe otherwise
and that's okay for men to wear earrings, fine that's your
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Yes, and while I'm at it, I'll be sure and deck myself out in loads of jewelry when I go to the grocery store tomorrow morning. To defend one thing, is to go to the extreme, is that it?

I do feel somewhat cross. Still doing laundry at 1:09 AM. That will make anyone cross.
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Abraham gave one to his future daughter in law as a gift .....

In Genesis, Abraham's servant brings jewelry, on Abe's behalf, to the future bride of his son:

New American Bible:

Genesis 24

The man watched her the whole time, silently waiting to learn whether or not the LORD had made his errand successful. 22 When the camels had finished drinking, the man took out a gold ring weighing half a shekel, which he fastened on her nose, and two gold bracelets weighing ten shekels, which he put on her wrists. 23 Then he asked her: "Whose daughter are you? Tell me, please. And is there room in your father's house for us to spend the night?" 24 She answered: "I am the daughter of Bethuel the son of Milcah, whom she bore to Nahor. 25 There is plenty of straw and fodder at our place," she added, "and room to spend the night." 26 The man then bowed down in worship to the LORD, 27 saying: "Blessed be the LORD, the God of my master Abraham, who has not let his constant kindness toward my master fail. As for myself also, the LORD has led me straight to the house of my master's brother."


Interestingly the KJV translates the Hebrew word nexem simply as ring ... when indeed, in the Hebrew, it is a nose ring:

nexem (neh'-zem) a) a nose ring [woman's ornament]; b) an earring [ornament of men or women] (5141)
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Yes, and while I'm at it, I'll be sure and deck myself out in loads of jewelry when I go to the grocery store tomorrow morning. To defend one thing, is to go to the extreme, is that it?

I do feel somewhat cross. Still doing laundry at 1:09 AM. That will make anyone cross.

But you're saving on your power bill - I'm sure you're aware
that the rates go down after 7pm ??
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pretty interesting there mark, unbelivable, but sad and true
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No need in getting cross with me Miss B.

just quoting his teaching on it. If you wanna believe otherwise
and that's okay for men to wear earrings, fine that's your
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You quoted his teaching and opined on it.



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But you're saving on your power bill - I'm sure you're aware
that the rates go down after 7pm ??
I had no idea. Is that true everywhere, or just in certain states?
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You quoted his teaching and opined on it.
not my personal opinon go back and look
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