Who then can be lost? - Page 7

Ferd · #61 07-10-2008, 09:57 AM

I have lost my will to argue about it. I wonder if that is a temporary thing or something that will last a while.

I don't understand folk that have something then make it their life's work to find the loopholes and exceptions related to not having it.

its one thing to have a discussion with a Baptist fellow about salvation. It is mind numbing vanity to have that same discussion about the Baptist fellow with a fellow Apostolic.

RandyWayne · #62 07-10-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leaf

Truth is no less truth if it sounds like a Southern Baptist, and no more truth if it sounds like a Oneness Pentecostal.

Is this perhaps why you almost never hear hard core apostolics quote John 3:16? "Why that is where BAPTISTS get their doctrine!"

Rico · #63 07-10-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Is this perhaps why you almost never hear hard core apostolics quote John 3:16? "Why that is where BAPTISTS get their doctrine!"

I've heard apostolics quote John 3:16 plenty of times. Usually its' to quote it like it's actually written in the KJV.

Mrs. LPW · #64 07-10-2008, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Is this perhaps why you almost never hear hard core apostolics quote John 3:16? "Why that is where BAPTISTS get their doctrine!"

There are plenty of scriptures that are not oft quoted by the not so hard core Apostolics...

By Grace are ye saved through faith!
Faith without works is dead being alone!

I think the two coincide beautifully.

RandyWayne · #65 07-10-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW

There are plenty of scriptures that are not oft quoted by the not so hard core Apostolics...

By Grace are ye saved through faith!
Faith without works is dead being alone!

I think the two coincide beautifully.

And what are the "works"? The NT really only has two specific commandments which encompass the spirit of the whole OT law. It is religion (not JUST apostolics) that add to it through endless bylaws and 50-100 year old traditions based on what culture was like when they (the bylaws) were written.

Ferd · #66 07-10-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Is this perhaps why you almost never hear hard core apostolics quote John 3:16? "Why that is where BAPTISTS get their doctrine!"

while im not going to join the debate (see my previous post)

John 3:16 was one of the earliest scriptures I learned in a Hardcore Apostolic church. It seems my hardcore Apostolic teachers/pastor thought that one was pretty important.

RandyWayne · #67 07-10-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

while im not going to join the debate (see my previous post)

John 3:16 was one of the earliest scriptures I learned in a Hardcore Apostolic church. It seems my hardcore Apostolic teachers/pastor thought that one was pretty important.

I'm glad you did. I never did -except with endless caveats added.

TRFrance · #68 07-10-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

I have lost my will to argue about it. I wonder if that is a temporary thing or something that will last a while.

I don't understand folk that have something then make it their life's work to find the loopholes and exceptions related to not having it.

Bingo!
To me, the endless seeking of loopholes could be in indicator of a deeper issue... i.e. a spirit of compromise that could put such a person in deeper spiritual peril in the days ahead.

Tyk · #69 07-10-2008, 11:13 AM

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Bingo!
To me, the endless seeking of loopholes could be in indicator of a deeper issue... i.e. a spirit of compromise that could put such a person in deeper spiritual peril in the days ahead.

Very very true. This is why we must always stop and ask God to show us the true intentions of our hearts. And to remove what humanity and error we have begun to intake.

I have to pray that every day after I leave the boards LOL!

Rico · #70 07-10-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Bingo!
To me, the endless seeking of loopholes could be in indicator of a deeper issue... i.e. a spirit of compromise that could put such a person in deeper spiritual peril in the days ahead.

True. The endless seeking of additions to God's Word could also be an indicator of a deeper issue....i.e. a spirit of elitism and judgmentalism that could put such a person in deeper spiritual peril in the days ahead.