Hell Bound? Says who??? - Page 7

rgcraig · #61 04-30-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Renda, come on you are a smart woman!

It gets old hearing that Baptism & spirit baptism are not essential to salvation.

Either it is or it isn't & it needs to be addressed.

Yes it is getting old from this side too!

Thank you.

Let me ask you this - - - in your day to day living does it change a thing in your life if someone believes something different than you?

You don't feel that way - it doesn't change how you believe, so why let it bother you?

I read stuff on here all day long that I don't agree with, but it doesn't change anything in my life.

Cindy · #62 04-30-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace

Oh Lord they all 3 belong there!!!! I am convinced! And lets see... 2 of em are already in Tx so it shouldnt be too much trouble..

Well, I like DA sometimes, but BP scares me.

AmazingGrace · #63 04-30-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Oh, that is the most FOOLISH question I've ever heard! How many people did Noah "win to the LORD"? I tell you, AG, it's shocking to me when anyone accepts this Gospel message thru my or anyone else's preaching. The way of salvation is NOT broad, fun or easy. There may be some fun along the way, and there may be times easier than others, but if I'm going to be saved, Acts 2:38 just starts the process and as I learn more there's more for me to do, all the while not "falling away" so I can make Heaven my home. I must DENY MYSELF, and let me tell you, that's TOUGH (and there are times I don't deny myself, and I have to repent, lest I land myself in hell). I rejoice when someone obeys the Gospel call, but I don't kid them and say, "It'll be easy" or "JESUS will give you a better life here on earth", I tell them, "It's hard work, an uphill climb, a daily battle, but if you'll make Heaven your home one day, you go down this narrow path". Some accept the message, MOST don't.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Ok... now I can accept this and it is fine... your posts in the past including tonight have come across that you just pretty much condemn to hell... you however explain here and in your last post with a little more love and tolerance in your message and I agree with you. Yes the message must be preached but it must be done without hate and done with love.. we cannot minister beyond relationship

OneAccord · #64 04-30-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Yes, Ester, I am saying we have a duty and obligation to preach the WHOLE counsel of GOD to the lost, and that includes trintarians and that includes telling them that they are going to hell. Your thoughts?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Well, no, Bro. Alex," maintaining our duty and obligation" to preach the Gospel doesn't necessarily include telling them they are going to hell. Preaching the Gospel is illustrated best in the story I alluded to a few minutes ago. The woman that was caught in adultery. It was the religious bigots and the self-righteous that were so quick to condemn the poor women. Jesus extended mercy, compassion and forgiveness. Now...let me ask you: Who do you think was more successful in fullfilling their "duty and obligation" of reaching the lost?

And, while I'm at it... since when is serving the Lord a duty and an obligation? This is a prime example of someone who thinks His service to the Lord is a duty- an obligation- something he has to do. Its an honor, a priviledge to serve the Lord with a joyful heart. A relationship with the Lord out of a joyful and cheerful heart is a healthy relationship. One that is based on servitude, duty and obligation is anything but healthy.

God doesn't want our service if it is being offered grudgingly, out of duty and obligation, no more than He wants our money given likewise. 2Cr 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, [so let him give]; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. I'm sorry you feel you have to serve the Lord out of mere duty and obligation. If you want to serve the Lord, it should be done willingly and cheerfully as the honor that it is.

Cindy · #65 04-30-2008, 11:29 PM

Alex, OA and AG great posts. Amen.

Sept5SavedTeen · #66 04-30-2008, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace

Ok... now I can accept this and it is fine... your posts in the past including tonight have come across that you just pretty much condemn to hell... you however explain here and in your last post with a little more love and tolerance in your message and I agree with you. Yes the message must be preached but it must be done without hate and done with love.. we cannot minister beyond relationship

Glad we're on the same page...

However, to you and to OneAccord; there does come a time in witnessing, when the person needs to understand they're going to hell, and if you're asked, "Oh, no, do you think I'm going to hell?" The answer has to be an honest and loving, "Yes."
I used to be very sadistic in the past and revel in the idea of most people going to hell, I've since repented of that, my pastor also helped guide me away from that sadistic hell-loving phase I was going thru.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Cindy · #67 04-30-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Glad we're on the same page...

However, to you and to OneAccord; there does come a time in witnessing, when the person needs to understand they're going to hell, and if you're asked, "Oh, no, do you think I'm going to hell?" The answer has to be an honest and loving, "Yes."
I used to be very sadistic in the past and revel in the idea of most people going to hell, I've since repented of that, my pastor also helped guide me away from that sadistic hell-loving phase I was going thru.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

That's wonderful Bro. Alex. People do need to understand that if they are living in sin they are not going to heaven. And that our heavenly Father sacrificed His Son so they don't have to go to hell.

AmazingGrace · #68 04-30-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Glad we're on the same page...

However, to you and to OneAccord; there does come a time in witnessing, when the person needs to understand they're going to hell, and if you're asked, "Oh, no, do you think I'm going to hell?" The answer has to be an honest and loving, "Yes."
I used to be very sadistic in the past and revel in the idea of most people going to hell, I've since repented of that, my pastor also helped guide me away from that sadistic hell-loving phase I was going thru.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

I am aware of how to witness to people considering my husband has been an outreach director for 6 yrs and yes there is a time when it comes to a point that person needs to know they are lost... but I have very rarely had to tell someone if ever that they are going to hell... that is not my place and if I do what God has me here to do properly then they will discover this on their own in the words that He gives me to say to them and I dont have to be rude or say those things... again you cannot minister beyond relationship and if you build a relationship with those you are reaching... then you will have no trouble getting them to see the err of their ways without having to do much at all... God does the footwork in this situation.. you are just there as the sounding board... He works much better at the condemnation part then we. A measure of love none of us will ever know.

Ron · #69 04-30-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

Thank you.

Let me ask you this - - - in your day to day living does it change a thing in your life if someone believes something different than you?

You don't feel that way - it doesn't change how you believe, so why let it bother you?

I read stuff on here all day long that I don't agree with, but it doesn't change anything in my life.

That is a good point, but let me ask you this question.

Is this a place for all?

Conservatives & Libs?

W/S & PCI or whatever, yet I still hear they believe in water & spirit baptism?

Then why is every second thread a denouncing of the W/S & anything that resembles OP is trashed?

My wife wears skirts & dresses, we are moderates, yet have you ever seen posts from me burning the britches of those who do not believe that? No!

I believe scripture is very clear about two hings that very fundamental to an Apostolics Faith Water Baptism by immersion in Jesus name for the remission of sins, and the infilling of the Spirit of God, and the Oneness of the God head.

Anything to tear that down is akin to shredding the Word of God up (in my eyes anyways).

What I do not know is this, others feel that way as well, it has been made known to this board & those who run it/own it.

If you don't want us here--tell us.

I'm a Gentleman (or at least try to be) I won't fight going nor rally others to my cause.

One thing is sure, this board has changed & not all for the good.

OneAccord · #70 04-30-2008, 11:42 PM

A sailor fails overboard in the Atlantic ocean. His shipmates crowd around and start yelling, "Sam, you better get out of that water!. You'll freeze. You're gonna drown!". And not one throws him a lifeline.

This is the best way that I can describe those who are so quick to condemn souls to hell.

Their words... no matter how well intended, are just empty words if they don't reach out with compassion.