gwb is more powerful than even i thought, not only is he responsible for the coming recession it seems, but now he controlled the mortgage lenders, too, by the way economically by definition, the country was in recession 6 monts before and after gwb took office, and came out of it in the summer of 2001, technically speaking, but that is gwbs fault too, i guess, come on, dt
do you mind telling me what an OIF and and OEF are? i dont know what that talk means.
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I think we Christians are looking for too perfect of a candidate. I think when it comes to politics the following prayer is very important:
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
Taking, as He did, this sinful world
as it is, not as I would have it;
Trusting that He will make all things right
if I surrender to His Will;
That I may be reasonably happy in this life
and supremely happy with Him
Forever in the next.
Amen.
--Reinhold Niebuhr
Sometimes we spend all our time, money, emotional energies, prayers, and efforts focused on things we really cannot change and in the process we fail to support and/or address the things we can.
Our perspective has to mature into the 21st century and we have to take this world as it is and quit demanding that it be the way we want it. It never will be the way we want it. One day it will be the way Christ wants it...but until then we must realize things are what they are.
The Republicans have us so misfocused in their feverish efforts to lock us up as a voting block. And ultimately, the Repblicans have no intention on addressin gthe issues we're focused upon. Let's not forget that there are very important issues that the Democrats and others are willing to address...
at least "we" arent looking for a liberal democrat. that is what "you" are looking for!
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the politicizing of the firings of the 8 us attorneys was just a game by the democrats, no one can say it was anything else based on history unless you ignore it, clinton basically got rid of all of them when he took office and no one even said a word, good grief, we need to get some education if we want to be open and honest about this stuff, dt
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gwb is more powerful than even i thought, not only is he responsible for the coming recession it seems, but now he controlled the mortgage lenders, too, by the way economically by definition, the country was in recession 6 monts before and after gwb took office, and came out of it in the summer of 2001, technically speaking, but that is gwbs fault too, i guess, come on, dt
DT,
I don’t think it’s GWB’s fault that the economy was in recession prior to his election. That was on the Clinton Administration.
However, the policies of the Bush Administration have been rather passive at heading off this recession. Leading economists state that targeted tax cuts and refunds would stimulate growth…but the current administration hasn’t really acted on it until just recently in spite of foreboding projections and economic indicators. One economist wrote, that the Bush Administration’s actions are, “too little, too late”.
The lending crisis is really exacerbating economic problems seeing that so many investments were secured on the back end with real estate. It’s really hurt the market. We’re watching JP Morgan buy out a company that was a leading player in the market. When their stock began dropping there was another virtual “run on the bank”. Bro, that’s bad news. How did this happen? There were laws on the books regulating lending practices. Ah….but the Republican congress fought tooth and nail, funded by the banking and mortgage lending lobbyists, to deregulate the lending industry. Guess what…President Bush signed those measures into law. While President Bush didn’t personally prey on borrowers, he and the Republican Congress passed measures exposing lenders to predatory lending practices. Odds are if you have a decent sized mortgage right now, you are in what they call negative equity. Meaning you owe more on your loan than your property is currently worth. You are being directly affected by the blatant disregard for the borrower’s wellbeing and the mad dash for profit at all costs. Also consider churches, many churches are in the same boat. What Congress passed these bills? The Republican Congress did. Who signed these bills into law? President George Bush. Now, are they to “blame”, is it their “fault”? That’s debatable. They cannot be held entirely to blame for the unscrupulous actions of various lenders. But, they passed and signed the bills. They are not to blame…but they are “responsible”. When I was in the military I learned how an acting squad leader may not at fault for the actions of his men….but he is responsible.
It sounds more and more like Republicans want all the power but no responsibility. They scream like little girls when they are held responsible for their foolish legislative actions. And let me beat someone to their whiny punch…yes a number of Democrats may have voted along with the bills to benefit their lending lobbies. But…if the Republicans (who held the majority) would have sided with the American people instead of the lobbyists from the lending industry hundreds of thousands of Americans wouldn’t be feeling the economic hurt they’re feeling right now in regards to their property and investments.
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Reno fired all of the prior admin's AG's, but did so at the outset of her term and did not offer a reason why.
When Gonzales, pawn of GWB, did so, he attempted to give bogus reasons based on performance evaluations. That why congress was investigating all of that stuff-- not because they were fired, but because they tried to justify it, then they tried to hide the fact that they gave bogus justifications from the beginning.
LIARS!!!!
Reno, didn't lie-- but you are right, ALL OF THEM were virtually fired, and that for no reason given.
I did not know that technically our country was in a recession 6 months before and and 6 months after GWB took office. I remember very well the dot.com boom and bust, but it didn't really affect me, my neighbors, my fellow servicemen, their families, and etc. Now I do know. Thanks.
But honestly, that recession could not have been a steep recession or it would have marred Clinton's domestic economic legacy (or ignorantly, the positive impression) that he has left with people all over this country.
However, the recession that ended Bush Sr. Presidency is memorable. I believe this one will be too.
BTW, when Clinton ran for re-election, I did not vote for him and I think that he was beyond morally corrupt, despite the alleged Bible studies he was supposedly getting from one of our Ministers.
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Many are blind ideologues who's answer would be to pat the Republicans on the back for all this. I think they're wimps who don't have the guts to give the Republicans a much needed spanking.
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"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
Reno fired all of the prior admin's AG's, but did so at the outset of her term and did not offer a reason why.
When Gonzales, pawn of GWB, did so, he attempted to give bogus reasons based on performance evaluations. That why congress was investigating all of that stuff-- not because they were fired, but because they tried to justify it, then they tried to hide the fact that they gave bogus justifications from the beginning.
LIARS!!!!
Reno, didn't lie-- but you are right, ALL OF THEM were virtually fired, and that for no reason given.
I did not know that technically our country was in a recession 6 months before and and 6 months after GWB took office. I remember very well the dot.com boom and bust, but it didn't really affect me, my neighbors, my fellow servicemen, their families, and etc. Now I do know. Thanks.
But honestly, that recession could not have been a steep recession or it would have marred Clinton's domestic economic legacy (or ignorantly, the positive impression) that he has left with people all over this country.
However, the recession that ended Bush Sr. Presidency is memorable. I believe this one will be too.
BTW, when he ran for re-election, I did not vote for him and I think that he was beyond morally corrupt, despite the alleged Bible studies he was supposedly getting from one of our Ministers.
cool bro we may cross swords occasionally on semantics but i am with you in the trenches all the way, dt
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