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Originally Posted by ReformedDave

I've never said that God doesn't love us. His sacrifice of His Son was the supreme act of love. What I am saying is that God doesn't NEED us. If He needed anything He would not be perfect and complete. Besides, show me Scripture that states that He has a need for humans.

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

To suggest that God 'longs' for something denotes His 'lack' which is not what I'm sure you mean.

That's EXACTLY what it's saying when it says he "loves" us.

He LONGS for us... passionately.



If a man LONGS for his wife... he NEEDS her... passionately.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

That's EXACTLY what it's saying when it says he "loves" us.

He LONGS for us... passionately.



If a man LONGS for his wife... he NEEDS her... passionately.

He's not complete without us?

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

That's EXACTLY what it's saying when it says he "loves" us.

He LONGS for us... passionately.



If a man LONGS for his wife... he NEEDS her... passionately.

Scripture references please.

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

He's not complete without us?

He didn't WANT to be complete without us.

He created us despite what it would cost him. He wanted a bride. So badly that he was willing to endure the cross for her.

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Scripture references please.

H157 is the word.

Go get a Gesenius Hebrew Chaldee Lexicon. Look it up.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

He didn't WANT to be complete without us.

He created us despite what it would cost him. He wanted a bride. So badly that he was willing to endure the cross for her.

If God is incomplete He is not perfect and all sufficient(He is not God). As I stated and showed Scripture for, His love he graciously showed to us is not the end in it's self. He showed His love to us to give glory to Himself. I believe there is enough Scripture to make that point.

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

If God is incomplete He is not perfect and all sufficient(He is not God). As I stated and showed Scripture for, His love he graciously showed to us is not the end in it's self. He showed His love to us to give glory to Himself. I believe there is enough Scripture to make that point.

I didn't say God was incomplete.

What I said was that God did not WANT to be complete WITHOUT us...


I'm done here....

Have fun arguing with yourself, Dave....

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

I didn't say God was incomplete.

What I said was that God did not WANT to be complete WITHOUT us...


I'm done here....

Have fun arguing with yourself, Dave....

BTW, you brought this up again. It had died down. You are great at the hit an run. I proved my point which you haven't even addressed. BTW, I've been looking up Scripture in the OT and haven't run across the definition that you have used yet.

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

BTW, you brought this up again. It had died down. You are great at the hit an run. I proved my point which you haven't even addressed. BTW, I've been looking up Scripture in the OT and haven't run across the definition that you have used yet.

One more freebie...

http://cf.blueletterbible.org/lang/l...57&Version=kjv

Look at the bottom of the page for "Gesenius's Lexicon"

Click on "Click Here for the Rest of the Entry"

Read the definitions... specifically the first and second ones, since they are the ones that apply most of the time.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

One more freebie...

http://cf.blueletterbible.org/lang/l...57&Version=kjv

Look at the bottom of the page for "Gesenius's Lexicon"

Click on "Click Here for the Rest of the Entry"

Read the definitions... specifically the first and second ones, since they are the ones that apply most of the time.

I have the lexicon you've mentioned. This type of 'love' does not always mean 'sexual'. It can mean love of a family member. There are different usages and many different words that we translate 'love'.......but I'm sure you know this. Which verses were you referring to?

BTW, did you check out my "freebies"?