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03-14-2007, 12:25 PM
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Game over.
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No game here, but fine with me. 
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03-14-2007, 01:15 PM
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People are always forming organizations and fellowships there are plenty of groups out there to join ,that are con ,liberal inbetween.
But when splits occur innocent people are adversly affected.
But when folks disagree with others in the Body Of Christ it's not Godly to spew venom at each other ,the Holy Ghost don't misbehave like that.
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03-14-2007, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
But when folks disagree with others in the Body Of Christ it's not Godly to spew venom at each other ,the Holy Ghost don't misbehave like that.
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I nominate this for post of the day. 
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03-14-2007, 01:38 PM
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Thank you Sister Tina if we act ugly towards one another ,why should sinners desire our Holy Ghost?
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
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03-14-2007, 01:47 PM
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A split is technially defined as 50-50, both sides having mostly identical parts.
I hardly think this will be the case whatever the cause, whenever the timeframe.
I will make a prediction...
Any division is going to effect the smaller churches most, those who rely on funds and resources provided by the HQ. This is why some churches remain regardless of their dissention.
Larger and prolific churches on both sides of the conservative-liberal isle will go on and function as though nothing happened.
What I think folks may not understand is that the garden variety saint has no clue as to the goings on in General Conference. There are buzzes, anecdotes, whispers, but really nothing of any substance that will dramatically change how the church operates.
The pastor will continue on preaching what he has always preached, and should the church leave the UPC, chances are it will have little or no effect.
What we may not remember or be willing to admit is that the church HAS a culture and a social element that keeps people attached and engaged to the extent their nature has been defined by their church identity.
It is all about relationships. Do church folks follow more the convictions of the organization or the convictions of the pastor? This should be an all TOO easy question to answer.
People and churches for the most part will not notice if they do not have an outside need. (assuming of course ALL pastors have enough integrity not to bad mouth the organization regardless of where they fall along the conservative-liberal continum).
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03-14-2007, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Thank you Sister Tina if we act ugly towards one another ,why should sinners desire our Holy Ghost?
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Sinners, nothing, Bro. Scott- it makes me sick to my stomach, and I'm a member of the family!!!!! It makes me wonder just many will actually BE saved, when it's all said and done, and the curtain of time has been drawn for the last time.
Sad, if you ask me...(...I realize no one DID)
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03-14-2007, 01:50 PM
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Oh, and the attitude that, "If they don't like it they should just leave..." is a cop out.
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03-14-2007, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by whollyHis
Sinners, nothing, Bro. Scott- it makes me sick to my stomach, and I'm a member of the family!!!!! It makes me wonder just many will actually BE saved, when it's all said and done, and the curtain of time has been drawn for the last time.
Sad, if you ask me...(...I realize no one DID)
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I think this is the problem, people are too concerned with who and if OTHERS will be saved instead of worrying about themselves. Indignant religious judgement of others is the fuel for religious conflict.
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03-14-2007, 01:56 PM
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I think its time to admit that the problems we face are real. We are at an impasse in our movement. Heels dug in, jaw set, and lines drawn in the sand.
There is no turning back, and somethings gotta give.
Hopefully, no one will perceive that as a slam against the UPC. It is simple truth.
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03-14-2007, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by whollyHis
Sinners, nothing, Bro. Scott- it makes me sick to my stomach, and I'm a member of the family!!!!! It makes me wonder just many will actually BE saved, when it's all said and done, and the curtain of time has been drawn for the last time.
Sad, if you ask me...(...I realize no one DID)
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Thanks Sister I appreciate your spirit.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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