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Old 02-14-2008, 11:01 AM
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Re: is McCain the Lessor of Two Evils?

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Get real. I've only voted Democratic three times in my life, and that's including local, city, county, state, and congressional elections. LOL You don't have a clue.
yet today you are advocting the liberal/democratic position, and therefore you are a member of the team who doesnt get to play!

sorry bro. you advocate for an organization that is what it is.

so dont tell me that McCain is immoral. sorry, you have forfitted that right. unless you dont mind wearing the hypocrit lable?
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:02 AM
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well.... independants that have opposed all things democrat.... constitutionalists....


you know, the usual suspects... the good guys.

but yea, Republicans get to talk about morality with other republicans. Democrats are not allowed to talk. period.

Gerry Studds
Barny Frank
Bill Clinton
Ted Kennedy
Robert Byrd

it isnt what they did, it is what their party defended.

Richard Nixon
Mark Foley
Bill Packwood
Bob Livingston
Trent Lott

it is what they did and it is what their party did about it.
bumping this. history is a great teacher.
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Old 02-15-2008, 08:37 PM
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He was having extramarital affairs when married to Carol, then abandoned his wife of 14 years and his children. Yes, he paid alimony. But here's the deal...he abandoned his kids. That's something we need to address. That does just as much damage to marriage, if not more, than two gays getting hitched in some tree huggin' church on E. Doper St. Massachusetts. We as straight Christians need to recommit to addressing divorce in our ranks with more force. Frankly McCain's current marriage is a sham. It was forged in adultery and since his wife was the won with biblical grounds to divorce him, he's currently still in adultery though he married Cindy. McCain might as well be gay married to John Edwards. Sin is sin brother. It's men like McCain that are leaving kids to grow up in fatherless homes all over the United States. Sin is sin bro.
You're really serious? Obama is this much of a paragon of virtue in your book that you run out a screed condemning the behavior of a man who flew with Tailhook? What do you think Navy pilots are like? Has McCain ever pretended to be anything else?

Like I said, he's not my guy- but he is what he is. And your nonsense about his treatment of his children is absurd. You just sit there and spew out propaganda that you've cut and pasted from Che's web sites. Are you really trying to make us believe that you're on a first name basis with McCain's wives? What's your point there?

Everyone who reads your silliness sees it for what it is - except you. I feel badly for you, bro. When you hit bottom from this I'm afraid that you're going to hit hard. But don't worry- I'll be there for you. I'll pick you up like a ragged drunk on the streets in the Bowery and help you to stagger back into a stream of conscious reasoning again. I'll be there for ya, bro!
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Old 02-15-2008, 08:55 PM
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When you hit bottom from this I'm afraid that you're going to hit hard. But don't worry- I'll be there for you. I'll pick you up like a ragged drunk on the streets in the Bowery and help you to stagger back into a stream of conscious reasoning again. I'll be there for ya, bro!


So you're going to be his Apostolics Anonymous sponsor?
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Old 02-15-2008, 09:20 PM
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So you're going to be his Apostolics Anonymous sponsor?
I just think that he's a kid who got bit by the Barak Obama bug. A little time is all that's needed to clear that up - as long as he doesn't go too far over the edge.
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Old 02-15-2008, 09:44 PM
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You're really serious? Obama is this much of a paragon of virtue in your book that you run out a screed condemning the behavior of a man who flew with Tailhook? What do you think Navy pilots are like? Has McCain ever pretended to be anything else?

Like I said, he's not my guy- but he is what he is. And your nonsense about his treatment of his children is absurd. You just sit there and spew out propaganda that you've cut and pasted from Che's web sites. Are you really trying to make us believe that you're on a first name basis with McCain's wives? What's your point there?

Everyone who reads your silliness sees it for what it is - except you. I feel badly for you, bro. When you hit bottom from this I'm afraid that you're going to hit hard. But don't worry- I'll be there for you. I'll pick you up like a ragged drunk on the streets in the Bowery and help you to stagger back into a stream of conscious reasoning again. I'll be there for ya, bro!
McCain himself talked about this in an interview in Arizona. It's also common knowledge that McCain's children and him had a serious falling out over his abandoning their mother. Thank God they mended their relationship after a couple years.

McCain is a schmuck. Trust me...my dad walked out and abandoned me and my mother. Any man who would do such a thing is a straight up deadbeat.

At least Obama hasn't abandoned his wife and kids. Whatever we say about his politics, he has more character than McCain has.
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Old 02-16-2008, 07:01 AM
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Re: is McCain the Lessor of Two Evils?

Satan is faithful to his followers too, right up to the time he is stops being faithful.

I'm sorry, what was your point?
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:07 AM
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McCain himself talked about this in an interview in Arizona. It's also common knowledge that McCain's children and him had a serious falling out over his abandoning their mother. Thank God they mended their relationship after a couple years.

McCain is a schmuck. Trust me...my dad walked out and abandoned me and my mother. Any man who would do such a thing is a straight up deadbeat.

At least Obama hasn't abandoned his wife and kids. Whatever we say about his politics, he has more character than McCain has.
I'm sorry about the pain you've experienced in your life. Not having a stable family in my background has been a source of sorrow in my own life. However, I've also learned that my own circumstances and experiences don't often correlate to those of others. McCain divorced his wife, yes; but it does not necessarily follow that he "abandoned" his children or shirked his responsibilities in other ways.

You're taking an undoubtedly painful and very personal failing of a total stranger and smearing him and his ex and their children. Running others down will not bring you any justice or a sense of closure for your own painful experiences.

Why don't we hit McCain for having a policy on Illegal Immigration that was even more "liberal" than Obama's? Or why don't we ask the tough questions about how the First Amendment was harmed by the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Bill?

There are plenty of real issues to hammer the guy on. The fact that he also behaves like the majority of men in America is not really a compelling argument against his candidacy. Didn't you ever hear what the First Lady, Mrs. Harding found in a closet in the White House kitchen back in the 1920's?

I fear that your emotional highs and lows on this reveal vulnerabilities that will only get you hurt. These politicians are goobers; you however, are a child of God.
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Re: is McCain the Lessor of Two Evils?

As all know I am not political but I am reading you all´s posts...some almost seem childish...
sorry that does sound offensive but I do not mean it to be...

We do not see into people´s bedrooms to know the why´s of McCain...and believe me I think he is a long ways from holy however some of these threads amaze me at the mindset in our mist...
The anti- christ could easy take over and Pentecostals might be guilty of voting him in...
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Thank God they mended their relationship after a couple years.

They repaired their relationship above, yet he is still a schmuck below.

McCain is a schmuck. Trust me...my dad walked out and abandoned me and my mother. Any man who would do such a thing is a straight up deadbeat.

At least Obama hasn't abandoned his wife and kids. Whatever we say about his politics, he has more character than McCain has.
So if Satan showed up with wife and kids he has been faithful to all along but still has no problem with killing a baby in the womb he would be better than one who was unfaithful yet reconcillary(sp)?

Has there been any study to effects of military life on his personal downfalls. I mean what kind of after effects is there to living in hole in the ground in a hostile country without any real since of hope. Not to mention the torture.

But your probably right, that wouldn't have any effect on a man whatsoever....sorry just thinking out loud...
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