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02-28-2008, 03:58 PM
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Matthew 7:6
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Re: Lee Stoneking on TV
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Originally Posted by Rev Dooley
Preferences change, but convictions remain.
My opinions on LS will remain mine since it would appear that some want to argue the issue.
Yes, tv is a holiness issue to me. I don't own one for the reason that it is not possible to control something that has only an output.
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Understood.
At the risk of sounding like I'm "arguing the issue", allow me to respond briefly if I may.
I believe that too many of the anti-TV crusaders fail to keep in mind some basic facts here: There are saints who don't have a TV, but a computer only and (even thought it's an "input/output" device) they still have issues with inappropriate content they choose to view on it.
Meanwhile, there are saints with TVs ("output only")in their house who are still spiritual and maintain a solid walk with God.
I would submit to you that the issue is of the heart, not of the device that one has.
Good day to you, sir.
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02-28-2008, 04:20 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking on TV
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
Understood.
At the risk of sounding like I'm "arguing the issue", allow me to respond briefly if I may.
I believe that too many of the anti-TV crusaders fail to keep in mind some basic facts here: There are saints who don't have a TV, but a computer only and (even thought it's an "input/output" device) they still have issues with inappropriate content they choose to view on it. Meanwhile, there are saints with TVs ("output only")in their house who are still spiritual and maintain a solid walk with God. I would submit to you that the issue is of the heart, not of the device that one has.
Good day to you, sir.
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I don't feel that you are arguing here, but are sincere in your thoughts. I hope to come across the same towards you.
Regarding computers: your statement of " There are saints who don't have a TV, but a computer only and (even thought it's an "input/output" device) they still have issues with inappropriate content they choose to view on it. " clearly shows that you feel that the internet is more about choice than a tv since you do choose each and every time what you will view. I agree with you on this line of thinking. Broadcast tv on the other hand, has a much smaller level of choice since commercial content cannot be individually chosen which IMO leaves the saint open to influences that could plant seeds of rebellion in the heart of all exposed. One need look no further than the number of good, apostolic families who have tv's and whose children are choosing homosexuality which is heavily promoted there.
I do realize that it is being taught as acceptable in the schools. Just a thought on this: could it be that tv exposure is acting as a reinforcement of unnatural behavior since it is often protrayed as either humorous or "loving" instead of the destructive lifestyle that it truly is?
"Meanwhile, there are saints with TVs ("output only")in their house who are still spiritual and maintain a solid walk with God. "
I would not be so hardeheaded to say that this does not happen occasionally, but, I feel the numbers are much smaller than many may want to consider.
I have known many fine saints who when they got tv's, their prayer lives suffered, their church attendance dropped: especially when the church had special functions.
I am sure that there are exceptions to this, but again I have seen very few.
"I would submit to you that the issue is of the heart, not of the device that one has."
I agree with you and would have you consider this verse:
Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Sometimes our heart may be telling us that something is okay while our spirit is telling us otherwise. This is all a part of the war that we all face inside.
My most sincere desire is to see saints overcome in this war, but if the ammunition being stored is from an ungodly source, how can we possibly fight and win?
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02-28-2008, 06:39 PM
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GO CUBBIES!
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Re: Lee Stoneking on TV
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Originally Posted by CareyM
I thought so!
You know I am just teasing you...
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yes i know you are teasing.
are you packed up yet?
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02-28-2008, 11:44 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking on TV
IT'S ALL BAD! I say it's all bad. Lets get a resouliton to HQ right now to get it all BANNED. TV, internet, radio, cell phone, CD, 8-track (just don't mention my cassets) I=pods, MP3, computers. lets just get rid of it all right now.
In all seriousness. If the org. passed a resoulition that said everyone had to get rid of their internet how many of us would even consider doing it?
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02-29-2008, 06:15 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking on TV
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Originally Posted by impactleader
IT'S ALL BAD! I say it's all bad. Lets get a resouliton to HQ right now to get it all BANNED. TV, internet, radio, cell phone, CD, 8-track (just don't mention my cassets) I=pods, MP3, computers. lets just get rid of it all right now.
In all seriousness. If the org. passed a resoulition that said everyone had to get rid of their internet how many of us would even consider doing it?
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Ahhh, humor to lighten the mood.
Just a little thought to throw in here: cons do not think that all things are bad. As Paul put it, all things are expedient but not all things are profitable.
This can and IMO does apply to basic choices that we make in life. One can choose tv. Is it profitable? That depends on who you ask. The advertisers will say yes since it is their smutty ads that sells things that people want. That same smu is used in magazines as well. I don't buy or read those types either for that same reason. I don't wish to pollute my brain. Heaven knows there is enough ambient pollution out there without me adding to it.
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02-29-2008, 11:38 AM
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Formerly known as CareyM
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Re: Lee Stoneking on TV
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Originally Posted by LaGirl
yes i know you are teasing.
are you packed up yet?
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Getting there...
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03-01-2008, 10:08 AM
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GO CUBBIES!
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Re: Lee Stoneking on TV
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Getting there...
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you better get busy!
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03-01-2008, 10:24 PM
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Matthew 7:6
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Re: Lee Stoneking on TV
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Originally Posted by Rev Dooley
Just a little thought to throw in here: cons do not think that all things are bad. As Paul put it, all things are expedient but not all things are profitable.
This can and IMO does apply to basic choices that we make in life. One can choose tv.
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Bro, you might not, but there are some cons and ultra-cons who will declare straight up that the TV is evil. Why do you think some call it "devilvision"?
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03-04-2008, 07:48 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking on TV
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Originally Posted by Rev Dooley
Ahhh, humor to lighten the mood.
Just a little thought to throw in here: cons do not think that all things are bad. As Paul put it, all things are expedient but not all things are profitable.
This can and IMO does apply to basic choices that we make in life. One can choose tv. Is it profitable? That depends on who you ask. The advertisers will say yes since it is their smutty ads that sells things that people want. That same smu is used in magazines as well. I don't buy or read those types either for that same reason. I don't wish to pollute my brain. Heaven knows there is enough ambient pollution out there without me adding to it.
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I am sure the bolded part is a typo.
Ain't it?
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03-05-2008, 12:38 PM
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Re: Lee Stoneking on TV
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I am sure the bolded part is a typo.
Ain't it?
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Has to be.
All things are lawful, but not all things are expedient. (1 cor. 10:23)
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
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