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Old 01-31-2008, 03:37 PM
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Re: PLEASE Let's Stay Right on Topic on this one

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COOPER! That sounds so funny to say, "Give me a break". That sounds like something you'd say to a guy.

Anyways......don't want to get into the then and now on the Bible with you.
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Old 01-31-2008, 03:41 PM
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LUKE 18
11The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
Don't fellowship those who sin.

1 Cor.5: 1: It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.
2: And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
3: For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
4: In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
5: To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
6: Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
7: Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
8: Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9: I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10: Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11: But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12: For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13: But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

2 Tim.3: 1: This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2: For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3: Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4: Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5: Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6: For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7: Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8: Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9: But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was
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Old 01-31-2008, 03:50 PM
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Hey everybody,
I have a question I'm going to throw out, concerning a verse in a chapter we all know VERY well.

I Corinthians 11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.

"Power On" In Greek: "Exousia Epi"

Can anyone tell me what they think this means? This does have to do with hair and the debate over headcovering/veiling, but I don't want to get sidetracked on that. Let's just take this verse and see what exousia epi has to tell us.

Could this power on be synonomous with power over, therefore giving HER the decision, authority and power over her hair, whether it is cut or not or what condition she chooses keeps it in?

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NET bible 1Co 11:10 For this reason a woman should have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.

Part of the topic of this discussion is submission...order of creation etc etc

1Co 11:3 But I want you to know that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.
1Co 11:4 Any man who prays or prophesies with his head covered disgraces his head.
1Co 11:5 But any woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered disgraces her head, for it is one and the same thing as having a shaved head.
1Co 11:6 For if a woman will not cover her head, she should cut off her hair. But if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, she should cover her head.
1Co 11:7 For a man should not have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God. But the woman is the glory of the man.
1Co 11:8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man.
1Co 11:9 Neither was man created for the sake of woman, but woman for man.
1Co 11:10 For this reason a woman should have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.

He is discussing the purpose of the covering....the man is to be uncovered since He is the image of God....she is to be covered for she is the glory of the man.
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Old 01-31-2008, 03:52 PM
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Don't fellowship those who sin.
So are you saying that Monkeyman is a sinner?
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I would expect it from you and your crowd,that's why i'm not interestes in being around your kind.Never attend a church where your kind go.
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11The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
Funny, that scripture popped into my mind too when I read that post.

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Don't fellowship those who sin.
Interesting post Joelel.

Based strictly on your posts, you are the only one who has the full truth. Based on your posts--You are the only one who is perfect. Based on your posts--The rest of us are nothing but carnal and imperfect sinners.

Your intentions may be good, but the attitude you have on this forum towards other posters is not gaining you any respect from anyone.

So why do you continue to "fellowship" with us here on the forum if none of us live up to being perfect as you think we should be?
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What do "ANGELS" have to do with womens hair anyway??
This is my opinion but some of God's angels cover their faces with their wings. Maybe just as they are covered in the presence of God and His glory women are the glory of the man and are to also be covered
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Old 01-31-2008, 03:54 PM
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Isa 6:1 In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and the train of his robe filled the temple.
Isa 6:2 Above him stood the seraphim. Each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.
Isa 6:3 And one called to another and said: "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory!"
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Old 01-31-2008, 03:57 PM
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Re: PLEASE Let's Stay Right on Topic on this one

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Funny, that scripture popped into my mind too when I read that post.



Interesting post Joelel.

Based strictly on your posts, you are the only one who has the full truth. Based on your posts--You are the only one who is perfect. Based on your posts--The rest of us are nothing but carnal and imperfect sinners.

Your intentions may be good, but the attitude you have on this forum towards other posters is not gaining you any respect from anyone.

So why do you continue to "fellowship" with us here on the forum if none of us live up to being perfect as you think we should be?
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So are you saying that Monkeyman is a sinner?
Sic'em....
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Old 01-31-2008, 05:11 PM
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"There's too much controversy, disharmony, and individual interpretation to state unequivocally that God demands uncut hair."

I don't believe that! The scriptures are very plain and correct!
Very plain? Then why are we arguing? If Paul was so plain, why didn't he just come right out and say it instead of beating around the bush???

Sixteen verses wasted when all he had to say was, Women, don't cut your hair, and men, cut yours above your neck and ears!!

So simple........I could have wrote scripture!
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