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03-07-2013, 08:55 PM
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Re: Bombshell- Considering going back to the UPC
This is a very interesting thread. We have just started going to a UPC church again after a couple of years at other churches. Your reasons for considering going back are like ours. We instantly connected with the pastor and his wife as people, and we had never been to their church before. I already told the pastor's wife that I don't wear pants all the time. The sky did not fall... lol
My daughter wears jewellery to their church and dresses like herself... not a clone. My husband wears 3/4 pants to church sometimes, and the boys all wear t-shirts. I respect that fact that the people we go to church with are dressing as they do to honour God. I just don't have the conviction to take it to that level, and I am so happy that we are back in a oneness church, with good and kind people as our leaders, and taking it one day at a time.
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03-07-2013, 08:56 PM
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Re: Bombshell- Considering going back to the UPC
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This is a very interesting thread. We have just started going to a UPC church again after a couple of years at other churches. Your reasons for considering going back are like ours. We instantly connected with the pastor and his wife as people, and we had never been to their church before. I already told the pastor's wife that I don't wear pants all the time. The sky did not fall... lol
My daughter wears jewellery to their church and dresses like herself... not a clone. My husband wears 3/4 pants to church sometimes, and the boys all wear t-shirts. I respect that fact that the people we go to church with are dressing as they do to honour God. I just don't have the conviction to take it to that level, and I am so happy that we are back in a oneness church, with good and kind people as our leaders, and taking it one day at a time.
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It will be interesting to see how it goes over time. Keep us posted!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-07-2013, 08:58 PM
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Re: Bombshell- Considering going back to the UPC
I wonder if returning to a UPC church after a few years is not unlike hooking back up with an ex-girlfriend that you had broken up with either months or years ago. There is often an instant connection based on familiarity as well as memories of the good times, however the memories of the bad times, or in the case of the church, the reason you left, soon resurface.
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03-07-2013, 11:21 PM
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Re: Bombshell- Considering going back to the UPC
VERY interesting thread!
Best of luck to you Jason, and I pray it works out in a good way. I agree with almost all your thoughts in the original post, and pretty much have for the 27 years that I attended a UPC (for a short time ALJC).
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03-07-2013, 11:27 PM
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Re: Bombshell- Considering going back to the UPC
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VERY interesting thread!
Best of luck to you Jason, and I pray it works out in a good way. I agree with almost all your thoughts in the original post, and pretty much have for the 27 years that I attended a UPC (for a short time ALJC).
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Hoovie, are you still attending a UPC church? You uses the word "attended" which indicates past tense.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-08-2013, 12:16 AM
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Re: Bombshell- Considering going back to the UPC
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Hoovie, are you still attending a UPC church? You uses the word "attended" which indicates past tense.
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No still am.
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03-08-2013, 02:03 AM
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Re: Bombshell- Considering going back to the UPC
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It will be interesting to see how it goes over time. Keep us posted!
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Will do 
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03-08-2013, 02:39 AM
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Re: Bombshell- Considering going back to the UPC
You can attend a lot of UPCs like that but they won't allow you in leadership positions
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03-08-2013, 05:01 AM
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Re: Bombshell- Considering going back to the UPC
Yep... one day at a time
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03-08-2013, 06:07 AM
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Re: Bombshell- Considering going back to the UPC
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You can attend a lot of UPCs like that but they won't allow you in leadership positions
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This assumes everyone wants to be in leadership. Some people are just happy being saints in the pews.
I find Jason's topic to be very timely because I just this week started going back to a UPC here in the great Southwestern USA. My experience is that recently I’ve had some health problems which have really thrown me for a loop. (I complained to my coworkers that my body felt alien.) The pastor of that church has really been supportive of me even though I’ve been a VERY VERY OCCASIONAL attendee (try maybe a half-dozen AT MOST times in the last four years) and I really appreciate that.
And, I should note, since the pastor put my name on the prayer list, I have felt REENERGIZED. Yeah, the medication probably helped, but I was on it five days and it wasn't doing anything for me and then *whomp* everything started working the way it's supposed to on Monday night. Thank you Jesus!
I gave it a lot of thought and decided I was mature enough now that I’m my own person to where I’m not going to be swayed by every wind of doctrine, as it were. (I'm not a teenager looking for approval from elders I respect, either.) If I want to wear slacks, I'll wear slacks. If I think it’s time to trim my hair, I’m going to do that. If I think I need to rock out to the Rolling Stones while I’m cleaning my house—as long as the Holy Spirit is in agreement, I don’t think there’s a problem. If I do have issues, and I am VERY SURE I will, knowing me, I will take it to Jesus, instead of going off into a snit.
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