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Old 05-21-2017, 05:00 PM
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Looking back, my years in that church were the worst years of my life.
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Old 05-21-2017, 06:44 PM
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Looking back, my years in that church were the worst years of my life.
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I'm divorced and remarried. I learned the hard way when it comes to a woman. I remember demanding she changed clothes because they weren't too my standard, I marched her back into the house and made her change. One day she was crying before church because she didn't believe in head coverings. I demanded she wear it. She wanted to go to a family reunion, I told her that we weren't going because they weren't saved. That was the last chance she had to see her dad before he died.

I was a real jerk.
OMG! Seriously?

This discussion is clear done to the bone.



Bro, you weren't a jerk.

You were demon possessed.

You needed a devil cast out of you.
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Old 05-21-2017, 06:59 PM
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The pendulum swings in religions. Sadly some people swing far right without a shred of Holy Ghost. Then when they swing far left they do it with the same carnality they had when they were far right.

Good God from Zion!

And I'm the legalist?

Give me a break!
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Old 05-21-2017, 07:32 PM
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So according to this argument there can be no such thing as truth because there is no 100% consensus on anything. For example, Acts 2:38 is debated by Trinitarian scholars as a person being baptized because of remission of sins rather than for the remission of sins. Therefore, based on this argument, baptism in Jesus' name for the remission of sins cannot be trusted.

In fact, many scientists, archaeologists, anthropologists and other highly educated people would argue the entire Bible is a fictionalized story. Thus, based on this argument, the entire Bible must be thrown out because someone debates its authenticity.

Just because someone debates an issue is not cause to ignore it. Jesus argued for educating ourselves (Jn. 5:39). Paul said to hunt for holiness (Heb. 12:4). consider this a moment. What does it mean to hunt? I believe in Paul's mind he meant to track down, to look for signs and follow those signs chasing after holiness.

Aquila does just the opposite. He chases after carnality. This is seen in defining holiness through pagan cultures rather than the Bible. For example, the reliance upon American Indians, Muslims, Eskimo's, Romans etc.

As for me and my house, we will hunt for holiness in our personal lives and attire. In other words, we will base our lives on the timeless principles found ion the word of God, not pagan culture. One of these principles is the fact that godly men wore pants. Godly women did NOT.


Here is another false claim. Neither examples have been lifted out of context. It has been said multiple times God demanded that the Levites wear bifurcated garments. This is absolutely true. In fact, at one time you tried to say it was a command specifically for the Levites alone. That was proven wrong by asking the simple question of where. Where in the text provided does it restrict other men from wearing them? Aquila agreed he was wrong.

As to the comment concerning the assimilation of the Hebrew young men, I have to ask really? Do you understand what the word assimilation means? According to Dictionary.com, assimilation means: the state or condition of being assimilated, or of being absorbed into something.

Does rejecting the king's meat to remain pure sound like they were absorbed into Babylonian culture? Apparently you must think so because this is your argument.
Does refusing to bow to an image sound like they had been absorbed into Babylonian culture? Apparently you must think so because, once again, this is your argument.

I believe anyone with any level of critical thinking skill can see the fallacy and absurd nature of this argument. The truth is these young men stood firm against anything that would violate God's law. Guess what? They recognized that they could wear pants and not violate God's law.

So once again please demonstrate where a godly woman wore pants. You can't because they never did. Thus we see a timeless principle: godly men wore pants and godly women did not.


You have the audacity to claim "shoddy evidence and lazy scholarship"? To call it dishonest? really?
Aquila has claimed that the Levitical bifurcated garments were specifically for the Levites. This is patently false because nowhere does the text restrict other men from wearing them.
Aquila has argued that the Hebrew young men were assimilated into Babylonian culture, that is why they wore pants. This, as demonstrated above, is also patently false.
Aquila has used Native american Indian culture to substantiate his "claims" as well as many other cultures. Talk about shoddy evidence and lazy scholarship! Since when does pagan culture trump the Bible?
Aquila goes on to ask the reader to " look up standard attire of the average man and woman in ancient Israel". This is dishonest and lazy because it implies that the Levites and the three Hebrew young men were not ancient Jews. How absurd is that?!?!
Aquila then tries to prove his point by appealing to popularity. Whether pants were adopted and made popular is not the question. Thus, this is a Red Herring fallacy. Pants may or may not have been popular in ancient Israel. The fact and the point of discussion is who wore pants in ancient Israel? The answer is singularly one - ancient godly Israelite men wore pants. Godly women did not.

The :shoddy evidence and lazy dishonest scholarship" is one-sided and it is not EB.



Note: Aquila tries to take the "moral high ground" by saying "I forgive you"? Yet, Aquila did not apologize for calling others "idiot's" among other things. Then, Aquila launches into another attack.

The truth is based on the Bible. I have not seen any Bible evidence from Aquila. Just the opposite. I have seen, as demonstrated above, Aquila kicking against and fighting against the truth. The truth is ancient godly Jewish men wore pants. Ancient godly Jewish women did not.




Now, once again, I ask for someone to demonstrate where a single godly woman wore pants.
The silence has been deafening...
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Old 05-21-2017, 08:54 PM
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Wow, y'all still going at this?

It's amazing that people will fight tooth and nail to assert that a woman who wears a pair of slacks is an abomination and deserves to burn in hell forever.

What you say EB about the Russian orthodox arguing over tassels while the communists took over their country?
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Wow, y'all still going at this?

It was clear from post one, ILG and Aquilla are right. Benincasa, Esaias, and Pliny are wrong.

There. Done.
Ironically after 600 plus posts you can't even spell the nick for the guy who is your hero.

Sweet love of God help us all.
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Old 05-21-2017, 09:15 PM
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OMG! Seriously?

This discussion is clear done to the bone.



Bro, you weren't a jerk.

You were demon possessed.

You needed a devil cast out of you.
I have to agree. The nastiest of spirits is often the most religious.
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Old 05-21-2017, 09:17 PM
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The pendulum swings in religions. Sadly some people swing far right without a shred of Holy Ghost. Then when they swing far left they do it with the same carnality they had when they were far right.

Good God from Zion!

And I'm the legalist?

Give me a break!
I'm glad someone around here is qualified to judge.
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Old 05-21-2017, 09:23 PM
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I'm glad someone around here is qualified to judge.
Bro, you already made the judgement long ago. I'm just in the amen corner.
The sad thing is that people like you who are abusers think everyone else is an abuser. But even sadder, they go to the far left and take their old religious self with them.

How many times you called me a legalist in this thread?

Just call you Plank Eye Joe.
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