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04-18-2015, 05:38 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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God created man with the ability to eat from the Tree of life and then forbid them.......
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Yeah, but He forbade them due to sin that came LATER, after they were created.. It's not like God forbade them before sin entered the picture as folks are implying, with angels created to procreate but disallowed to do so before any fallen ones existed. Really...\\You guys dumbfound me more and more.
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04-18-2015, 05:43 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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God's will was for man to eat of the tree of life.
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Nobody said it wasn't. You must have missed the point I made in response to what Mike said about angels having an ability but being forbidden to use it
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04-18-2015, 05:45 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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Yeah, but He forbade them due to sin that came LATER, after they were created.. It's not like God forbade them before sin entered the picture as folks are implying, with angels created to procreate but disallowed to do so before any fallen ones existed. Really...\\You guys dumbfound me more and more.
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It doesn't matter why. The fact is you said having an ability and being forbidden is illogical. I just showed you where God did give Adam an ability and forbid that ability to be used...therefore it's either Illogical and God is illogical Or you are wrong
You're inability to comprehend what Logic means is dumbfounding. Your ability to gloss over your own illogical arguments is....FUNNY
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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04-18-2015, 06:01 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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It doesn't matter why. The fact is you said having an ability and being forbidden is illogical.
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No, there's a huge difference. SIN. God does not make us with an ability that cannot be used in sinless innocence. Show me a an example otherwise.
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I just showed you where God did give Adam an ability and forbid that ability to be used...therefore it's either Illogical and God is illogical Or you are wrong
You're inability to comprehend what Logic means is dumbfounding. Your ability to gloss over your own illogical arguments is....FUNNY
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I just have to hold myself back from a response to your last few lines. I would come across seriously mocking, and I do not mean to do so in a nasty way.
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04-18-2015, 06:08 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
Prax, what I said about angelic forbiddence to procreate is not like your example eating fruit of life and being unable to later, either, though. To be more correct, you would have to show me where God created man with a general physical ability to be used for ONE thing, and being forbidden to use it. To be more correct, your analogy would have to say Adam was not allowed TO EAT AT ALL, after God created him to be able to eat. Sexual procreation is a general physical ability, totally unrelated in every way to being able to eat but only eat certain things. You're trying to say being forbidden to use sexual ability at all is like being forbidden to not eat a certain food.
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04-18-2015, 06:13 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
We're talking about an entire FACULTY here!
I created you with legs, but you can never walk!
I created you with hands, but you can never grasp.
I created you with ears but you can never hear.
I created you to experience sexual procreation and copulation, but you can never experience it.
(And the idea that they altered themselves to be able to.... don't even go there.)
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04-18-2015, 10:43 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
It doesn't matter why. The fact is you said having an ability and being forbidden is illogical. I just showed you where God did give Adam an ability and forbid that ability to be used...therefore it's either Illogical and God is illogical Or you are wrong
You're inability to comprehend what Logic means is dumbfounding. Your ability to gloss over your own illogical arguments is....FUNNY
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He gotcha Mike, now confess to us right here, right now, that Adam was munching on the Tree before the fall to get eternal life, or you have a double standard and Prax has you checkmated!
After your confession, you may proceed debating!
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04-18-2015, 10:49 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
Remember Mike, I am your preterist pastor, ordained to the lost sheep of the house of preterism, to bring back the straying preterists and pull them out of the house of preterism...LOL
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04-18-2015, 10:49 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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He gotcha Mike, now confess to us right here, right now, that Adam was munching on the Tree before the fall to get eternal life, or you have a double standard and Prax has you checkmated!
After your confession, you may proceed debating!
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I already showed that logic was faulty.
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04-18-2015, 10:52 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
I agree with you on the GIANT DEMON BABY stuff..LOL
He just made a good point.
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