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11-06-2007, 11:45 AM
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"One Mind...OneAccord"
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I'm not UPC and have refrained from posting on this thread for that reason. But, and with respect to the thread starter (Bro. RKent Smith, I believe), the very title to this thread shows the real problem. Yes, the UPC needs a healer. But, see, the problem doesn't begin and end with the UPC. The problem trancends denominational (or, if you perfer, organizational) barriers. And THAT is the problem. The barriers. The walls that are build between us. And there are many: The New Birth, women preachers, the 2nd coming, Baptism, the Godhead, and on and on. Oneness Pentecostalism goes far beyond the UPC. There are umpteen Oneness organizations and... independent churches? Well, they are countless. The real need for a healer is that we are a divided church. Thats our problem. We live with the mistaken notion that, in order for us to be a truly united Pentecostal church, we all have to dress, walk, talk and live the exact same way. Thats not true. Never has been true, never will be true. As long as we walk around in separate bodies, we will have separate personalities... and, subsequently, separate ideas. The truth is, even within the confines of a particular organization there will always be differing viewponts. To believe two people who affilate themselves with a particular group will automatically believe everything exactly the same is a fantasy. We won't all ever believe everything the same. Who ever said we have to? Sure, we can only walk together if we agree, but on EVERY point of doctrine? On every issue? I think not. If that is the case, then we'll all be walking alone.
So, yes, we need a healer. But where is the healer going to come from? From within the group? No, not according to biblical precedence. Whenever God sent a healer (a prophet, etc) in the Bible, he came from outside the camp. Elijah the Tishbite (which means "a stranger") was a stranger to the house of Ahab. John the Baptist came from the wilderness. Jesus Himself, a Nazerene, was a stranger to Jerusalem. When the NT needed a word from God, who brought that message? It was Paul, a recently converted former persecutor of the church. An outsider.
All the resolutions and recisions of resolutions will do nothing to effect healing... healing will only come from the Sun of Righteousness. When the battles end.. when the dust clears.. then, and only then, will the Lord be able to bring healing. Until we recognize the battle isn't a UPC battle, and that it is our battle we will never be healed. Our enemy? .. not resolutions and affirmations. Not TVs and liberlism. Our battle is our division. Our divided spirits. Our divided house. Healing can come only when we follow the words of the prophet:
2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
That, and that alone, will bring healing to the Body of Christ.
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"Rest in the Lord, and wait patiently for Him...." -Psa. 37:7
Waiting for the Lord is easy... Waiting patiently? Not so much.
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11-06-2007, 11:45 AM
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Hello AFF!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Amarillo, Tx.
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Originally Posted by TRIPLE E
In Solomon's temple all the furniture was new ,the only piece of furniture to remain the same was the ark of the covenant which was symbolic of the presence of God.
Some things change over time but the Message of salvation,Jesus,the Blood will remain the same!Yes we need Jesus to build the ship or house if not everything else is in vain!
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11-06-2007, 12:17 PM
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BEHOLD! I am your healer! Where is this vile television dragon which needs to be slayed? Does it breathe fire?
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11-06-2007, 12:18 PM
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My Family!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Collierville, TN
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Originally Posted by Don Quixote
BEHOLD! I am your healer! Where is this vile television dragon which needs to be slayed? Does it breathe fire?
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Welcome DonQ!
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Master of Science in Applied Disgruntled Religious Theorist Wrangling
PhD in Petulant Tantrum Quelling
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11-06-2007, 12:32 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by rkentsmith
And so....
8875 views...
650 post...
68 pages.....
And the typical liberal response is to make the messenger the issue....
Endeavor to beat up the poster....
Since there is truth in the message...
Folks.....
The UPCI needs a healer.....
Some on AFF could use one as well....
God Bless
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Most of the responses you attribute to being liberal are not liberals. They were responding to the inability or unwillingness of the messenger to do more than just repeat the same thing over and over and not answer the questions or dialog with them. You are sounding like a broken record. You made an assertion as to what healing was but you don't dialog with others over it.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-06-2007, 12:35 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darryl
8800+ views is really not that impressive when you realize that it is being viewed by the same 20-30 people over and over and over and over again.
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Yes lol , just curious to see if the drama continues of RK repeating the same thing over and over and not actually answering the question
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-06-2007, 12:36 PM
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My Family!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Yes lol , just curious to see if the drama continues of RK repeating the same thing over and over and not actually answering the question
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Apparently, he doesn't have an answer and that's why he continues to just say it over and over.
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Master of Science in Applied Disgruntled Religious Theorist Wrangling
PhD in Petulant Tantrum Quelling
Dean of the School of Hard Knocks
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11-06-2007, 12:50 PM
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without exception
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Quixote
BEHOLD! I am your healer! Where is this vile television dragon which needs to be slayed? Does it breathe fire?
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The Don-Qui has arrived to heal all wounds, bind up all splinters!
The blind cannot continue in a
Straightline
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11-06-2007, 12:54 PM
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without exception
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rkentsmith
And so....
8875 views...
650 post...
68 pages.....
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It's all about numbers, isn't it??????
Circular thinking cannot follow a
Straightline
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11-06-2007, 12:54 PM
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Registered Member
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Join Date: May 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Quixote
BEHOLD! I am your healer! Where is this vile television dragon which needs to be slayed? Does it breathe fire?
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ROFL!!!!
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