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Originally Posted by Thad
I believe you are looking technicalities in order to wear your pants.
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I need no technicalities. I dress as I believe to be right according to the word of God and that's what I weigh my decisions on.
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comparing the dress of 2000 BC and today is what is comparing broomsticks and apples.
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If we were comparing what was worn then to today, I would agree, but that's not the issue. The fact is, when that verse was written, men and women wore the same garment. Today, that verse is used to show why men and women CANNOT wear the same garment. That logic is faulty.
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I never said we ought to go over to other countries and try to change every aspect of their culture UNLESS it goes against all levels of modesty.
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Modesty according to which culture? In some countries and areas, modesty means that men have a loincloth and women have a grass skirt and both are nude from the waist up. It might not be modest to you, but you aren't of their culture.
However, I was referring to people who come here from other countries wearing the attire that is normal for them, for example, attire for East Indian women. They have a pants-like garment on but to suggest that they are wearing men's attire would be insulting to them.
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some Heathan nations have to be taught to cover their butts up and YES they should. their generations of a pagan way of life taught them all sorts of evil practices just because it's normal for their culture does not make it right.
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Again, you speak as an American with a different definition of what is normal and moral. To compare, you dress immodestly according to the attire men wore in Bible days, but like you said, we don't live in the time and country and therefore what they did then doesn't apply to the here and now in this country.
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God gave us common sense HO. a basic "T" can be worn by both genders however a lcaey frilly top would not.
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Why not? Men wore them in the 1700's and it was completely accepted then. And where is your Bible that a T can be worn by both sexes and that's ok? Or is that your loophole?
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since you dont believe in any kind of gender distinction would it be okay if a couple got married and the man wore the lacey gown and the woman wore the suit pant ??
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Thad, again, you are bringing in an argument that socially isn't acceptable in this country, and what you mentioned has the description of one gender dressing as the other, and that's something the Bible teaches against.
This is the problem you have, Thad. A man's suit is made of a button down shirt, a vest, jacket, tie, pants, and belt.
A woman can wear a women's button down shirt and nobody thinks anything wrong about it.
A woman can wear a women's vest and nobody thinks anything wrong about it.
A woman can wear a women's jacket and nobody thinks anything wrong about it.
A woman can wear a women's tie (I prefer to call it a scarf) and nobody thinks anything wrong about it.
A woman can wear a women's belt and nobody thinks anything wrong about it.
A woman can wear all of these items at once and nobody thinks anything wrong about it.
But put on a pair of women's pants and suddenly she's dressing like a man!!!
That's not Biblical, Thad. Not in any way.