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02-24-2007, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronzo
You're older than me sparky.
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It is possible to have an uncle younger than you ... Einstein ...
Geez Louise.
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02-24-2007, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronzo
I think if none of his responses in 65 pages of thread have been clear to you then you may as well give up asking because I don't think he can make it any more plain to you than he's already done for anyone else....
Why don't you stop trying to look for him to give you a canned answer that you can define him by and actually read his posts as a whole?
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How about a simple statement like, "I believe when one repents, is water baptized in Jesus name, and receives the holy ghost with tongues as the initial evidence that they have been born again, have the earnest of their inheritance, and are considered saved".
or maybe, "as soon as they believe in Jesus and make him Lord of their life, they are saved".
I asked a simple question because I did not go back and read 600+ pages to find out what he believes, and he seems to be espousing that when a person believes, they are saved.
I am not ashamed of my beliefs, and figured he wasn't either.
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02-24-2007, 04:27 PM
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I'm not suggesting anyone owes me anything. When one expects a quality post from someone who has been know to provide in the past, one has a sense of letdown when a post has less substance than tofu. The rant and rave crowd gets a thrill from it.
Which is worse? Someone who presents data with an agenda or an organization who supresses the data that suggest history isn't as accurate as desired?
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Originally Posted by apersimmon
To be disappointed implies he has ANY sense of being obligated to you, or that you have any capacity to overview his thinking or expression. That's ridiculous. Who are you to be 'disappointed' in another person's post as if they have some responsibility to you? tv1a, isn't this really a subtle manipulation, when you say you are 'disappointed'?
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02-24-2007, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
It is possible to have an uncle younger than you ... Einstein ...
Geez Louise.
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Well, ya got me there, but it ain't the norm, George Jefferson.
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02-24-2007, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Are you once saved, always saved? Why or why not?
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No. The bible is very plain that you can walk the path, and then leave it. It does not unbirth you, but your final location can be changed by your current course.
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02-24-2007, 04:30 PM
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I think you're real question is when is salvation made afforded to us, Chuck ... and you'll get the standard PCI answer from me ...
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02-24-2007, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tv1a
I'm not suggesting anyone owes me anything. When one expects a quality post from someone who has been know to provide in the past, one has a sense of letdown when a post has less substance than tofu. The rant and rave crowd gets a thrill from it.
Which is worse? Someone who presents data with an agenda or an organization who supresses the data that suggest history isn't as accurate as desired?
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That supposed lack of substance has now garnered almost 700 posts!
As to your last question, neither is preferable. Your question must be rhetorical.
Coonskinner stated his opinion. That's all. And so far we've had many more
"easy believism" posters on this thread that freaky-conservatives.
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02-24-2007, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
I think you're real question is when is salvation made afforded to us, Chuck ... and you'll get the standard PCI answer from me ...
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That is all I was trying to know. I would not want to misrepresent anyone.
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02-24-2007, 04:37 PM
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That supposed lack of substance has now garnered almost 700 posts!
As to your last question, neither is preferable. Your question must be rhetorical.
Coonskinner stated his opinion. That's all. And so far we've had many more
"easy believism" posters on this thread that freaky-conservatives.
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Which of the two ... PP ... might give you more glimpses at truth ??? Or should we rely on Hall's historical books only ....???
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02-24-2007, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
I think you're real question is when is salvation made afforded to us, Chuck ... and you'll get the standard PCI answer from me ...
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Here is what I have gathered from the 700 posts on this thread.
Daniel believes faith that brings repentance is all that is necessary to save.
But he thinks it would be really terrific if someone would go ahead and get baptized afterwards, and that the Holy Ghost is an unsolicited gift.
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