The Difference Between the PCI of the Merger and the Current Counterfeits - Page 64

SDG · #**631** 02-24-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

So when the cry comes up, "What must I do to be saved?", what is your answer?

9/10 if this question is asked in earnest .. then their is true faith ....

I would preach what the Apostles did ... Repent and turn to God ....
Paul preached this to Agrippa and his court ...

We would then have a discussion about what a repentant life really looks like and what it means to confess Him as Lord of your savior... then I would sit down with them, like Paul did with the jailer ... speak about the Word of God ... I would stress that it is Christ that saves us ... and not our works.

We'd speak of the importance of baptism ... the wonderful promise of the baptism of the Holy Ghost .... and the power it brings .... but it wouldnt stop there ... we'd talk about consecration, living a holy life, loving God with all we have, loving our neighbors ... what it means to know God in his power, resurrection, and fellowship of his suffering .... it's a faith walk, Charlie. A love relationship.

but true discipleship would take years ... Jesus spent 3 1/2 years discipling the twelve ...

Charlie Brown · #**632** 02-24-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

9/10 if this question is asked in earnest .. then their is true faith ....

I would preach what the Apostles did ... Repent and turn to God ....
Paul preached this to Agrippa and his court ...

We would then have a discussion about what a repentant life really looks like and what it means to confess Him as Lord of your savior... then I would sit down with them, like Paul did with the jailer ... speak about the Word of God ... I would stress that it is Christ that save us ... and not our works.

We'd speak of the importance of baptism ... the wonderful promise of the baptism of the Holy Ghost .... and the power it brings .... but it wouldnt stop there ... we'd talk about consecration, living a holy life, loving God with all we have, loving our neighbors ... what it means to know God in his power, resurrection, and fellowship of his suffering .... it's a faith walk, Charlie. A love relationship.

but true discipleship would take years ... Jesus spent 3 1/2 years discipling the twelve ...

So at what point in your years of discipleship would they be considered "saved".

This really isn't that hard. Why are you sidestepping it?

#**633** 02-24-2007, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

9/10 if this question is asked in earnest .. then their is true faith ....

I would preach what the Apostles did ... Repent and turn to God ....
Paul preached this to Agrippa and his court ...

We would then have a discussion about what a repentant life really looks like and what it means to confess Him as Lord of your savior... then I would sit down with them, like Paul did with the jailer ... speak about the Word of God ... I would stress that it is Christ that save us ... and not our works.

We'd speak of the importance of baptism ... the wonderful promise of the baptism of the Holy Ghost .... and the power it brings .... but it wouldnt stop there ... we'd talk about consecration, living a holy life, loving God with all we have, loving our neighbors ... what it means to know God in his power, resurrection, and fellowship of his suffering .... it's a faith walk, Charlie. A relationship.

but true discipleship would take years ... Jesus spent 3 1/2 years discipling the twelve ...

Again, all this time I thought you no longer believed the truth. This is what occurs time and time again in the traditional OP church I attend. Do you for some reason feel that the normal presentation of the gospel in United Pentecostal churches differs significantly from this?

If you believe that you are sadly mistaken and have been misled!

SDG · #**634** 02-24-2007, 04:04 PM

Charlie ... who is sidestepping ???

"He that perseveres to the end shall be saved." [Matt 10:22; Matt 24:13; Mark 13:13]

Do you disagree ???

Charlie Brown · #**635** 02-24-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Charlie ... who is sidestepping ???

"He that perseveres to the end shall be saved." [Matt 10:22; Matt 24:13; Mark 13:13]

Do you disagree ???

So no one is saved until the end??

SDG · #**636** 02-24-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by philjones

Again, all this time I thought you no longer believed the truth. This is what occurs time and time again in the traditional OP church I attend. Do you for some reason feel that the normal presentation of the gospel in United Pentecostal churches differs significantly from this?

If you believe that you are sadly mistaken and have been misled!

Some present it this way .... and some will send you tell hell for not speaking in tongues .... right away.

SDG · #**637** 02-24-2007, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

So no one is saved until the end??

Whenever the end may be ... unless Charlie ...

Are you once saved always saved????

SDG · #**638** 02-24-2007, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philjones

Again, all this time I thought you no longer believed the truth. This is what occurs time and time again in the traditional OP church I attend. Do you for some reason feel that the normal presentation of the gospel in United Pentecostal churches differs significantly from this?

If you believe that you are sadly mistaken and have been misled!

That's what happens when you get caught in the feeding frenzy ... Phil ... I have been discussion how some in the movement present God's salvation in a condemning fashion ... and without sound biblical precepts ...