Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ? - Page 64

Sean · #**631** 09-30-2017, 09:19 PM

12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

I am amazed at Christians that get stumped by this verse in their Bible.

It is given a quiet "thumbs down" when they read it.

They completely disagree with their Savior's own words.

Evang.Benincasa · #**632** 09-30-2017, 09:20 PM

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12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Deal with this verse in YOUR Bible.

I defend it, you run from it.

Sean, I did deal with it.

Do you believe Jesus has one bride?

Who is that bride?

Evang.Benincasa · #**633** 09-30-2017, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

I am amazed at Christians that get stumped by this verse in their Bible.

It is given a quiet "thumbs down" when they read it.

They completely disagree with their Savior's own words.

No we disagree with self absorbed religious toads like you. Not Jesus who is God alone. You are amazed by only one thing. That people even take time (or should I say waste time) to deal with you.

Sean · #**634** 09-30-2017, 09:22 PM

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Another verse written decades after Jesus went to heaven that Christians deny/avoid.

TK Burk · #**635** 09-30-2017, 09:22 PM

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Silly boy, Jesus quoted O.T. in his teachings, which were not depicting his crucifixion, just like the Apostles later did.

Can anyone interpret what that means??

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We are talking about THE AUTHOR of the words of Psalm 22:1-18, which you deny were the actual words of Jesus.

No, Sean, Bro Benincasa did not say anything like that.

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You must think, since Jesus was quoting the Psalmist, that he was unable to finish the next 17 verses, saying/thinking "you know what I mean".

Talk about a strawman...and a brainless one too.

Sean · #**636** 09-30-2017, 09:23 PM

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Another verse written decades after Jesus went to heaven that Christians deny/avoid.

Sean · #**637** 09-30-2017, 09:37 PM

Don't feel bad. I avoided those same verses myself for decades.

I finally gave up and believed them all.

mfblume · #**638** 09-30-2017, 09:38 PM

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Revelation 13:8King James Version (KJV)

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

God saw the entire event before the foundation of the world, so yes.

God does not "predict" events.

So Jesus died TWICE for our sins.

Meanwhile...

Hebrews 9:28 KJV So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

mfblume · #**639** 09-30-2017, 09:41 PM

Now the typical response that avoids the issue will be like.... "So you're saying Revelation 13:8 is a lie?" When in fact the truth is GOD FORESAW and FOREPLANNED the cross, which is what it means for him to have been crucified before the world began, not that He actually was killed on a cross.

These guys MAKE THINGS UP AS THEY GO, so there are scriptures that directly refute their made-up off-the-cuff ideas. And when scripture LIKE Hebrews 9:28 is shown to them to prove them wrong, THEY IGNORE it and pretend it's not there. So they never directly answer the scripture like I just directly explained Rev 13:8 as being a note of FOREKNOWLEDGE, not actuality.

Watch how Hebr 9:28 WILL BE IGNORED and AVOIDED

mfblume · #**640** 09-30-2017, 09:46 PM

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Don't feel bad. I avoided those same verses myself for decades.

I finally gave up and believed them all.

You avoided them and then made something up because you cannot correctly understand oneness, as is evident from the nonsense you claim we believe. Whereas we never avoided them at all, and explained them in harmony with those verses that say Jesus was GOD before He came in flesh! Referring to HIS GOD is speaking solely from the perspective of his humanity, while at the same time HE WAS God from the perspective of deity and incarnation. Which is why He claimed to BE GOD and received worship .... not like some satanic idea that satan tried to tell eve that a person can become God.