Oneness Pentecostal Apologetics Conference - Page 64

JN Anderson · #**631** 06-30-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DAII

The only initial universal sign?

Again, do all of the Apostolic contributors and moderators at EF believe this .... Medina, Dulle, Perkins, et al?

I believe that yes. You will have to ask them.

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

http://www.ptstulsa.edu/AboutPTS

Phillips Theological Seminary????

No. Princeton Theological Seminary.

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Originally Posted by DAII

James, can you share your criteria for saying tongues is a predominant theme in Acts and 1 Corinthians. .... I would lead towards it being a major theme in the latter.

Are you referencing one of my articles? I have a few articles there where I lay out my view.

Baron1710 · #**632** 06-30-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JN Anderson

I believe that yes. You will have to ask them.

No. Princeton Theological Seminary.

Are you referencing one of my articles? I have a few articles there where I lay out my view.

Except they have never heard of him nor do they have any record of conferring an honorary degree on him.

JN Anderson · #**633** 06-30-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

Except they have never heard of him nor do they have any record of conferring an honorary degree on him.

Baron, do you like playing parrot? How about calling the man and asking him.

Jeffrey · #**634** 06-30-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JN Anderson

Pelathais, I re-examined my 1986 Symposium book and it only suggests "two honorary degrees" and does not actually list the names of the institution. I also listened to the mp3 of Jesse Williams, who introduced Treece, and he actually says the two honorary degrees come from PTS. Other than this I don't know. I don't plan on calling him either.

At any rate, please read this properly. I was not saying we can do a translation tomorrow night. As I have said, since the beginning, it may be a long time before we get to such a place. I would like to see a study bible as Baron mentioned. I think though the Oneness scholars should prepare for this, all the more since it does not happen overnight. I would also surmise that the process of translation would be open and nothing hidden. Just thoughts of times in the future.

I still think forming a committee based on one's view of the godhead to translate scripture is not the most objective way to maintain academic integrity. Qualified ONeness theologians (who do not currently exist as far as we've seen), and qualified Trinitarians working together on this is best. As a matter of fact, put godhead out of the headlines, prop up qualifications and approaches to scripture as much more important.

Jeffrey · #**635** 06-30-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JN Anderson

Here are some articles I wrote proving that speaking in tongues is valid and for today.

http://evidentialfaith.blogspot.com/...20in%20Tongues

Haven't clicked the link. But maybe state your thesis better. Not many deny tongues "aren't valid today." There's quite a debate going, however, on tonguers as exclusive evidence of the baptism of the Spirit, and further, a debate on whether the baptism of the Spirit is essential for salvation (thus, is is distinct from the indwelled spirit in John 3). That is the real issue.

DAII · #**636** 06-30-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JN Anderson

I believe that yes. You will have to ask them.

No. Princeton Theological Seminary.

Are you referencing one of my articles? I have a few articles there where I lay out my view.

This would seem to be a core doctrine for salvation and teaching for the original Apostolic faith your site propagates .... I'd imagine you would insist all would be on board on this one.

Are there articles I could reference by them that would state their beliefs on necessary universal and initial glossalia.

JN Anderson · #**637** 06-30-2010, 01:23 PM

"The essentially salvation-historical structure of the Book of Acts is too often overlooked."
Showing the Spirit: A Theological Exposition of 1 Corinthians 12-14 by D.A. Carson pg. 150

DAII · #**638** 06-30-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JN Anderson

Baron, do you like playing parrot? How about calling the man and asking him.

I believe verifying with the institution is just as valid.

Baron1710 · #**639** 06-30-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JN Anderson

Baron, do you like playing parrot? How about calling the man and asking him.

How about telling the truth. You first claimed Princeton - debunked. Then Princeton Theological - debunked. Then it becomes PTS which morphs back to Princeton Theological.

You made the assertion, I called you on it. Nothing you have said about the man's degrees have been accurate. So get your facts straight before you make wild assertions.

JN Anderson · #**640** 06-30-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

I still think forming a committee based on one's view of the godhead to translate scripture is not the most objective way to maintain academic integrity. Qualified ONeness theologians (who do not currently exist as far as we've seen), and qualified Trinitarians working together on this is best. As a matter of fact, put godhead out of the headlines, prop up qualifications and approaches to scripture as much more important.

These are options I, personally, have no problem with Jeffrey. Good points.