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Old 04-27-2007, 12:19 PM
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are you for real????? God hates a women who does not wear a dress, wears ladies slacks, as he abores homosexuality???


sounds like you are the one hedging Steve
Both are an abomination.
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Old 04-27-2007, 12:21 PM
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They were not so different...they were still ROBES. Robes are robes. Hello??? ROBES??? What was NOT unisex about wearing ROBES???


As for your other question Thad, you are playing by cultural rules...

In THIS day and age, it is a societal NORM for women to wear pants.

It is NOT a societal NORM for men to wear dresses...unless you go to a particular country where in THEIR society, that is the societal NORM.

Can YOU give one instance in Scripture where men were mistaken for women or visa versa?????????

So evidently they were distinquished by sight.
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Old 04-27-2007, 12:23 PM
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The Bible covers a time span of several thousand years, but the type of clothing worn by most Jewish people during that time did not change much. Jewish styles seem to have been influenced by both the simplicity of the Egyptians and the flamboyance of the Mesopotamians. Jewish clothing was fringed, but not like Mesopotamian clothing, which had fringes, overlapping fabric, frills, borders and colored braiding - less was not more in ancient Mesopotamia.

Both women and men wore a loincloth, the equivalent of underpants. This was a long thin strip of cloth which was wound around the waist and then between the legs, with the end tucked in at the waist. Women probably wore some sort of binding around their breasts.

The main garment, worn by both women and men, was the halug, a tunic. This was made of two rectangular pieces of cloth joined in a long seam along the top of the arms, with a hole left for the head to go through. It also had a seam running down both sides, with holes left for the arms.

The halug could be gathered up in a bunch at the shoulders, either with a clip or a tip-loop, or it could be tucked up at the waist if heavy work was being done. Halugs made of fine linen or wool could be draped to fall gracefully.

The halug was worn with a belt, either leather or metal, the decoration depending on the wealth of the wearer.

A cloak could be worn over the halug. The edges and fringes of the cloak were often decorated.

When women went into public places, they wrapped their long hair in a piece of cloth. This cloth held their hair in place and acted as a head covering in the hot climate. It could also be used as a face covering. Rebecca used it to hide her face when she first met Isaac (Genesis 24:65).

Total veiling, as worn by some Islamic women today, was not practiced. Sarah’s beauty was obviously visible to those around her (Genesis 12). Rebecca was not veiled when she was drawing water from the spring (Genesis 24:16).

Ancient people loved to decorate themselves with jewelry, which, as today, was valued for its beauty and for the status it gave to its owner. Every woman had jewelry, which was part of her personal wealth.

We have a good idea of clothing in New Testament times because of a discovery made in Israel in 1960. Bedouin tribesmen found many artifacts in a cave near En-gedi on the Dead Sea, which were dated to the Bar Kokhba War in 132CE. The cave was in a rocky cliff-face.

It appears that during the Bar Kokhba War a group of 17 people, including six children, were trapped in the cave. They starved to death there, rather than surrender to the Roman soldiers who were camped immediately above the entrance to their cave. A range of textiles was found with their skeletons. There were women’s cloaks, a child’s linen shirt, and skeins and balls of unspun purple wool. Laboratory analysis showed that three basic dyes had been used to obtain 34 different colors of thread (the three dyes were saffron yellow, indigo blue and alazarin red).

Among the artifacts found in the cave were pieces of jewelry, a box for powder and a brass mirror in a wooden frame.

Source: http://www.womeninthebible.net/BIBLE-3.5.htm
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Old 04-27-2007, 12:24 PM
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Can YOU give one instance in Scripture where men were mistaken for women or visa versa?????????

So evidently they were distinquished by sight.
BEARDS are quite noticible; even from a distance!
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Old 04-27-2007, 12:28 PM
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You are hedging. The principle is there God hates unisex clothing. It blurs the line between the genders and God hates it kind of like homosexuality.
I get a kick out of preachers who come to a conclusion on some thing, then all of the sudden characterize it as God's opinion.

It is your opinion that pants are unisex clothing, it is your opinion that it blurs the lines between genders and it is your opinion that there is a parellel between this and homosexuality, and it is your opinion that God agrees with you and hates the same thing that you hate and loves the things that you Love.

Love you Brother Epley, but a stretch is a stretch.
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Old 04-27-2007, 12:29 PM
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Can YOU give one instance in Scripture where men were mistaken for women or visa versa?????????

So evidently they were distinquished by sight.
You cannot prove a negative. Can you provide a scripture that God loves butterflies? NO? Then God must hate and abhor butterflies.
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Old 04-27-2007, 12:30 PM
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Can YOU give one instance in Scripture where men were mistaken for women or visa versa?????????

So evidently they were distinquished by sight.
And this is relevant how????

Are you saying that because the robes were so much different between the sexes that they couldn't have possibly been mistaken for someone of the opposite sex???

I would have thought the beards would have taken care of that.

Bro. Epley...they were still ROBES...robes are robes. Different in material, color, and decoration...but nevertheless...they were still just robes. Just as they are still just pants today. Different in material, color, and decoration.
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Old 04-27-2007, 12:37 PM
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And this is relevant how????

Are you saying that because the robes were so much different between the sexes that they couldn't have possibly been mistaken for someone of the opposite sex???

I would have thought the beards would have taken care of that.

Bro. Epley...they were still ROBES...robes are robes. Different in material, color, and decoration...but nevertheless...they were still just robes. Just as they are still just pants today. Different in material, color, and decoration.
Maybe it had to do with the OTHER abomination...mixing materials like silk and wool and cotton or some such thing that really no one cares about.

Pick your Mosaic law and follow it to the most distant extreme that your imagination can drum up...


I still think a woman wearing the persona and attitude of a man is worse than a woman wearing pants, but the anti-pants crowd really don't see it.
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Old 04-27-2007, 12:41 PM
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Maybe it had to do with the OTHER abomination...mixing materials like silk and wool and cotton or some such thing that really no one cares about.

Pick your Mosaic law and follow it to the best that your imagination can drum up...


I still think a woman wearing the persona and attitude of a man is worse than a woman wearing pants, but the anti-pants crowd really don't see it.
Lol...

I just wanna know which generation was wearing unisex clothing!
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Maybe it had to do with the OTHER abomination...mixing materials like silk and wool and cotton or some such thing that really no one cares about.

Pick your Mosaic law and follow it to the most distant extreme that your imagination can drum up...


I still think a woman wearing the persona and attitude of a man is worse than a woman wearing pants, but the anti-pants crowd really don't see it.
Most women have a little extra help above the waist proving they are women too which would show up even wearing a robe!
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