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Old 06-19-2008, 06:09 PM
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I deal with medication on a regular basis and I know of what I speak. One can't lump the effects and purposes of all medication together. That is pure stupidity. There are hundreds of infants that I've helped deliver that would not be alive today except for to medication and it was a med that had nothing to do with mind altering properties.

How do you explain the Bible's commendation of wine and all it's properties? Along with it's warnings it also praises it.
So, you are saying that I am stupid now? You have no idea in what you're talking about.

Wine is not medication, but it is alcohol and has been used for the common cold.

Medication is the way that people stay in bondage, but that is ok to me, because I thank God that I don't have to be in bondage to medication.

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Old 06-19-2008, 06:11 PM
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So, you are saying that I am stupid now? You have no idea in what you're talking about.

Wine is not medication, but it is alcohol and has been used for the common cold.

Medication is the way that people stay in bondage, but that is ok to me, because I thank God that I don't have to be in bondage to medication.

Can you for one second not say something that you cant support?

How about we make a deal, I won't mock you, and you actually participate in this discussion we have been having some million years now, ok?

He wasn't saying wine is a medication he was asking on what basis do you say medication is bad? Its side effects? Well the Bible speaks good of wine as well as negatively because of it's side effects.

Please don't derail your own topic, and stop making yourself look like an idiot. We are all on the same side, quit being so rude.
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:13 PM
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So, you are saying that I am stupid now? You have no idea in what you're talking about.

Wine is not medication, but it is alcohol and has been used for the common cold.

Medication is the way that people stay in bondage, but that is ok to me, because I thank God that I don't have to be in bondage to medication.

Ignorance is one thing and stupidity is what you are showing. Tell me how the medication that I have given to premature infants to sustain their lives and help mature their lungs in anyway altered their state on consciousness?

The bible commends wine and the 'happiness' it brings....interesting.
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:17 PM
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Oneness Man's attempt at logic

Just like we know that Luke was a physician, Matthew was an Apostle. The Apostles Matthew and Peter received the same revelation of the Oneness of Jesus because Luke testified that Jesus opened up their understanding of the Scriptures. As they were of one mind and one accord, we assume they conducted themselves in the same manner regarding baptism.

Whether Luke dispensed medicine as a physician during the time of the Book of Acts, we can see:
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There are no scriptural references to show that Luke did, so that must mean he didn't.
Along these same lines of logic, we can assume Matthew never baptized anyone in the Name of Jesus:

There are no scriptural references to show that Matthew baptized in The Name of Jesus, so that must mean he didn't.
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:19 PM
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Yes, he was a doctor, but none of you have shown any evidence that he gave medications to the sick.
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I will trust God completely when I get sick, because He is my healer. I do not believe in taking drugs, but if others do, then take them all you want, but when someone equates it to say that I said it was sin, then that is a lie. I am not saying you said it, but there was someone that did say that, which is pretty pathetic.
And you haven't proven that he didn't...

So let me see if I am reading this correctly. Should you or a loved one, God forbid, be in an accident and in need of immediate surgery and a transfusion, you would deny medical help?!

In case you think I am being argumentaive, I assure you I am not. Surgery involves taking meds...I know because I just went through it.
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Just like we know that Luke was a physician, Matthew was an Apostle. The Apostles Matthew and Peter received the same revelation of the Oneness of Jesus because Luke testified that Jesus opened up their understanding of the Scriptures. As they were of one mind and one accord, we assume they conducted themselves in the same manner regarding baptism.

Whether Luke dispensed medicine as a physician during the time of the Book of Acts, we can see:

Along these same lines of logic, we can assume Matthew never baptized anyone in the Name of Jesus:

There are no scriptural references to show that Matthew baptized in The Name of Jesus, so that must mean he didn't.

Logic. What a terrible thing!
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:20 PM
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And you haven't proven that he didn't...

So let me see if I am reading this correctly. Should you or a loved one, God forbid, be in an accident and in need of immediate surgery and a transfusion, you would deny medical help?!

In case you think I am being argumentaive, I assure you I am not. Surgery involves taking meds...I know because I just went through it.
Transfusions are not medicine... lets stay on topic, I don't want him to be put on the spot.

We are speaking of the relationship between medicine and witchcraft.
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:22 PM
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Transfusions are not medicine... lets stay on topic, I don't want him to be put on the spot.

We are speaking of the relationship between medicine and witchcraft.
Transfusions most certainly are meds if they are keeping one alive. And in surgery they give meds to put one to sleep and for pain...

He has put himself on the spot, but I will bow out...
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:23 PM
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Ignorance in one thing and stupidity is what you are showing. Tell me how the medication that I have given to premature infants to sustain their lives and help mature their lungs in anyway altered their state on consciousness?

The bible commends wine and the 'happiness' it brings....interesting.
Prayer should be the number one priority above any bondage to medication. This is a pill world and that is why people take them. Isn't that why you give them? It is the carnality of the world today.

BTW, I am not stupid and what I say is not stupidity. You need to open your eyes to get a revelation from God.
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:25 PM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication

The only point I would like to make, because a word has multiple meaning:

1. Medicine and it's application.
2. Tree Worship and Witchcraft

Does not mean they are the same thing, in fact it means they are not and were not the same thing otherwise the definition would be one.

Along the same lines, because the translators translated it into the word witchcraft indicates they thought from all logical points that it was referring to witchcraft not medicine, otherwise they would have translated into the word more synonymous with that corresponding definition.

Ergo, there is no reason to believe that in this case the word is meaning witchcraft, there is no connection whatsoever to this word. If it meant the same thing then why not use that word? Simple, the reason there is even an ambiguous definition indicates the definitions were not the same thing.
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