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03-05-2015, 09:33 AM
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Re: Why I Am A Futurist
I am not dogmatic about it as Sean is about me going to hell over leaves (God have mercy on him at judgment), but I believe had Adam eaten of the fruit of life, he would be indwelt by God's Life. He would live forever so long as he did not eat the forbidden fruit, anyway. But the fruit of Life was God's Life that God wanted in man to manifest in and through man to the physical world. And satan knew that if man was filled with something else, God would not indwell man and manifest. For if God indwelt man and manifested through man, satan would be finished and cast out of the world as God cast him out of glory. So he had to get another filling in man first.
And since man would multiply and ingest that filling of life and manifest God all over the world in time, the serpent went after the means of his multiplication, the woman. Just like he goes after the church today with the same knowledge of good and evil in legalism to urge us to not manifest God but be our own gods and throw haywire into the whole manifestation purpose.
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03-05-2015, 09:34 AM
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Re: Why I Am A Futurist
8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil....
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Looks to me that they had free reign to the tree of life!
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Re: Why I Am A Futurist
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this strikes me as two cases of circular reasoning, wadr. "Lest he take also" seems to allow that this was possible, to me. "We need to keep him from the fruit of the tree of life, which is currently available to him."
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That's why God threw him from the garden to not partake of both, since he'd already eaten the forbidden. It was possible. But forbidden.
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03-05-2015, 09:38 AM
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Re: Why I Am A Futurist
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I am not dogmatic about it as Sean is about me going to hell over leaves (God have mercy on him at judgment), but I believe had Adam eaten of the fruit of life, he would be indwelt by God's Life. He would live forever so long as he did not eat the forbidden fruit, anyway. But the fruit of Life was God's Life that God wanted in man to manifest in and through man to the physical world. And satan knew that if man was filled with something else, God would not indwell man and manifest. For if God indwelt man and manifested through man, satan would be finished and cast out of the world as God cast him out of glory. So he had to get another filling in man first.
And since man would multiply and ingest that filling of life and manifest God all over the world in time, the serpent went after the means of his multiplication, the woman. Just like he goes after the church today with the same knowledge of good and evil in legalism to urge us to not manifest God but be our own gods and throw haywire into the whole manifestation purpose.
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Interesting belief system.
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03-05-2015, 09:40 AM
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Re: Why I Am A Futurist
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8 and the lord god planted a garden eastward in eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
9 and out of the ground made the lord god to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil....
16 and the lord god commanded the man, saying, of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Looks to me that they had free reign to the tree of life!
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Every tree!!!
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03-05-2015, 09:41 AM
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Re: Why I Am A Futurist
C'mon...lets all say EVERY tree!
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03-05-2015, 09:42 AM
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Re: Why I Am A Futurist
C'mon you can do it!
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03-05-2015, 09:43 AM
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Re: Why I Am A Futurist
16 and the lord god commanded the man, saying, of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
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Re: Why I Am A Futurist
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17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
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