All Trinitarians are Lost!!!!!!!!!!!

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Did you know RP well as in cultivating a relationship with him? Oneness pentecostals in Columbus can't stand RP. To say you know RP is like saying you know Barak Obama.

I know members of his inner circle. His youth pastor has preached at our church. I have open access to t

My eyewitness account occured in 2011. Someone was baptized. The preacher was observing from the platform. There was no way the preacher could have asked the person how they wanted to be baptized. The preacher clearly invoked the name of Jesus in front of thousands of people. No one questioned the preacher.

While I have been gone from Columbus for quite a few years, As it pertains to your first question, YES, for nearly a year (1984-85) my wife and I had lunch with he and his wife many Sundays. I also taught a home Bible study to some of his inner circle back then, and while I will not state that is the reason for him re-baptizing many of his folks, (He also has a HUGE number of former UPC/other Apostolics in his church....and he has members of his extended family that are Apostolic preachers) some of his musicians and others were having Bible studies with him on the matter and he personally would send questions to me through them.

I told many Columbus area pastors they needed to quit hating on RP and get something happening in their churches. The reason people were leaving OP churches and going there was because something was happening. They have some of the best music, his preaching was pretty good back then (I personally think he has become too commercialized now and has lost some of his luster....JMO) and there were miracles and many other things happening.

Your eyewitness account is awesome! However, you and I both know that RP or whoever the keynote "preacher" happens to be, is NOT the one who makes the baptism proclamation every time. I assure you that just as in our OP churches what is said varies from preacher to preacher, and in WH's/RP's case how one is baptized is NOT an issue so baptism statements could vary.

My personal experiences with RP are more than 20 years ago and a lot may have changed since then.

[Chateau d'If]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I hope I can be saved....seems like I have done so little...We oneness people (and never have a doubt I am oneness from the top of my head to the sole of my feet) however we are so proned to deciding things on who is going to be saved we forget ALL THINGS are weighed in judgment...I always ask God to forgive me and help me be saved. I will stand in judgment with those have signed their testimony with their own blood...I have not done that...only when I give my all can I qualify to judge others...until then I will keep on preaching Acts 2:38, Deut. 6:4 along with the rest of the Bible...and leave the judging to God...

There it is...The Never Enough gospel.

[Sister Alvear]

I am just saying I love Jesus so much I wish I could have done more...My works will never produce salvation...HIS grace brings salvation...I just love Him and it has been my awesome privilege to work in His fields...and of course my calling...I am not Jehovah Wittness doctrine...they must knock doors to be saved...I knock doors because I love to tell about him...I don't mark down points and demerits ....lol...

[Sister Alvear]

His sacrifice not mine brings salvation...lol...Never meant to say or make it sound like I HAVE to do what I do to get His favor and merit....Sorry if I came across wrong. I LOVE what I do and live an awesome life.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Chateau d'If

There it is...The Never Enough gospel.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

His sacrifice not mine brings salvation...lol...Never meant to say or make it sound like I HAVE to do what I do to get His favor and merit....Sorry if I came across wrong. I LOVE what I do and live an awesome life.

I understood what you meant and never thought you were really implying that you could earn your salvation. But your self clarification will not be enough for Chateau D'if. He will continue to say that you teach salvation by works. Oh, that will make him guilty of the sin of bearing false witness, but that is just the fruit of his irrational disdain for Oneness Pentecostals. It tends to cloud his objectivity.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by bishoph

While I have been gone from Columbus for quite a few years, As it pertains to your first question, YES, for nearly a year (1984-85) my wife and I had lunch with he and his wife many Sundays. I also taught a home Bible study to some of his inner circle back then, and while I will not state that is the reason for him re-baptizing many of his folks, (He also has a HUGE number of former UPC/other Apostolics in his church....and he has members of his extended family that are Apostolic preachers) some of his musicians and others were having Bible studies with him on the matter and he personally would send questions to me through them.

I told many Columbus area pastors they needed to quit hating on RP and get something happening in their churches. The reason people were leaving OP churches and going there was because something was happening. They have some of the best music, his preaching was pretty good back then (I personally think he has become too commercialized now and has lost some of his luster....JMO) and there were miracles and many other things happening.

Your eyewitness account is awesome! However, you and I both know that RP or whoever the keynote "preacher" happens to be, is NOT the one who makes the baptism proclamation every time. I assure you that just as in our OP churches what is said varies from preacher to preacher, and in WH's/RP's case how one is baptized is NOT an issue so baptism statements could vary.

My personal experiences with RP are more than 20 years ago and a lot may have changed since then.

Since that church does not teach the FULL truth, Oneness, or standards...then I don't believe that ANY who are baptized there,even if it was in the name of Jesus, have received a valid baptism and are going to hell.

Hey Epley and Hometown Guy, did I say that right?

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Since that church does not teach the FULL truth, Oneness, or standards...then I don't believe that ANY who are baptized there,even if it was in the name of Jesus, have received a valid baptism and are going to hell.

Hey Epley and Hometown Guy, did I say that right?

Lost as two girls a-kissin'.

Hey, this is fun!!!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Lost as two girls a-kissin'.

Hey, this is fun!!!

Lost as a preacher watchin two girls a-kissin......

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Lost as a preacher watchin two girls a-kissin......

What's sad is that there are probably some preachers doing that very thing!!