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09-01-2018, 02:39 PM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
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You called Mike P?
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For a brief chat.
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09-06-2018, 06:52 AM
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This is still that!
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
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There isn’t enough inclusion within the UPCI. It’s a predominantly white denomination with no interest in allowing minorities in key leadership positions. As far as I’m concerned, the UPCI is racist.
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one of our regional directors, Bro Albert Thunder, is a licensed UPC minister and also was elected chief of the Woodland Cree 
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12-17-2019, 09:33 AM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
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12-17-2019, 09:42 AM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
What hurts the UPCI is nepotism. Sure, every local church is autonomous, but there are no safeguards in place to ensure that the local churches do not turn into pastoral autocracies. Just as is the case with the AG and SBC, mandatory deacon boards should be established.
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12-17-2019, 09:44 AM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
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one of our regional directors, Bro Albert Thunder, is a licensed UPC minister and also was elected chief of the Woodland Cree
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I wonder if Dante would consider the PAW to be "racist" for its lack of non-blacks in leadership.
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12-17-2019, 09:44 AM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
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What hurts the UPCI is nepotism. Sure, every local church is autonomous, but there are no safeguards in place to ensure that the local churches do not turn into pastoral autocracies. Just as is the case with the AG and SBC, mandatory deacon boards should be established.
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That’s what the early Catholic Church wanted to stop. Hence the reason they came up with celebite priests. No families, no sons and daughters to take property.
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12-17-2019, 09:46 AM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
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I wonder if Dante would consider the PAW to be "racist" for its lack of non-blacks in leadership.
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No, because Dante is just a troll. Trolls use of logical discussion must always lean to their favor.
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12-17-2019, 09:51 AM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
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That’s what the early Catholic Church wanted to stop. Hence the reason they came up with celebite priests. No families, no sons and daughters to take property.
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Yet during the Middle Ages, "Lord Bishops" were appointed left and right.
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12-17-2019, 09:53 AM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
Is Dante the guy speaking with DKB?
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12-17-2019, 09:59 AM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
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That’s what the early Catholic Church wanted to stop. Hence the reason they came up with celebite priests. No families, no sons and daughters to take property.
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According to my understanding you are correct.
Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.
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