You Be The Judge: Afp1996 vs Jason

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by shag

I don't follow you here Elder, about gaining as a nation the superiority that they would have etc., my bad. I'll let you and B. Blume hash that out cause I dont really have a clue what you mean.-lol.

However, while I have your attention I would like to ask you a question concening generation. Under your interpretation of generation meaning race, Jesus would not have said "This generation shall not pass... or all these things will come upon this generation" if it were not possible for it to happen. Is it possible for the jewish 'race" as you see it to pass away before "all these things happen", and if so, please explain what exactly the "passing away" would be. We know Jesus wanted to let them know that the "passing" would not take place, although the "passing" was possible, or it would not have been mentioned. What "passing" of the "jewish race" could be possible before "all these things" take place
And from other's poster's view of "generation" meaning NT church age, is it even possible for the "NT church age" to "pass away" before all "these things" happen, and if so what would the "passing" be? Again, if its not possible, Jesus would not have even mentioned it at all. I know thats not your claim Bro. Epley, but maybe you or someone else could comment per that view.

The passage is a promise that even through the horrors of the event prophecied the Jewish race will NOT be annihilated.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

It gets even more narrow when you look for people who say what they mean and mean what they say....

Still obsessing, brother. You are wrong sometimes, you know.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

The passage is a promise that even through the horrors of the event prophecied the Jewish race will NOT be annihilated.

Though we disagree, bro., you remain civil and Christian in your responses, though you refrain from answering my questions sometimes.

What are your thoughts on how GENERATION is used in the end of Matt 23 to contrast the people to whom Jesus spoke with their ancestors? If it was referring to RACE, then their ancestors were of the same race, and that would make no sense.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Still obsessing, brother. You are wrong sometimes, you know.

Yes, I am wrong sometimes. But in this case, I am not because I am only quoting what you said. Bro. Blume, YOU SAID WHAT YOU DID, not me. Being wrong is one thing. Being dishonest is another....

[shag]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

The passage is a promise that even through the horrors of the event prophecied the Jewish race will NOT be annihilated.

What exactly will happen to make the Jewish race pass away, and how/what will "replace" the jewish race after it passes away?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Yes, I am wrong sometimes. But in this case, I am not because I am only quoting what you said. Bro. Blume, YOU SAID WHAT YOU DID, not me. Being wrong is one thing. Being dishonest is another....

Obsessing obsessing obsessing. The energizer bunny lives!

Anyway...

Originally Posted by shag

What exactly will happen to make the Jewish race pass away, and how/what will "replace" the jewish race after it passes away?

Who would ever wonder if the Jewish race would disappear, anyway? (And it is not even a race, anyway).

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Obsessing obsessing obsessing. The energizer bunny lives!

Anyway...

Bro. Blume, I am not obsessing. You told an untruth, you were caught, and now you will not admit your fault. You used your untruth against what me and Bro. Benincasa were saying. We knew you weren't telling the truth back when you claimed you were not--and could not--read our posts. It is always sad when preachers resort to such things....

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by shag

What exactly will happen to make the Jewish race pass away, and how/what will "replace" the jewish race after it passes away?

Just as Heaven and Earth will not pass away neither will the Jewish race. He was only telling them they would not be annihialted as a nation.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Bro. Blume, I am not obsessing. You told an untruth, you were caught, and now you will not admit your fault. You used your untruth against what me and Bro. Benincasa were saying. We knew you weren't telling the truth back when you claimed you were not--and could not--read our posts. It is always sad when preachers resort to such things....

I am going to make this last response to you, which I would not normally have done, since you are blatantly obsessing over the thought that you cannot be wrong. But you misjudged my entire ministry as a preacher publicly and this requires a statement from me.

I did not lie to you. I explained what I meant. Whether you interpret what I said the way I explained it or not, I gave the honest explanation of my statements you quoted. Call me a liar and mar my entire ministry, and continue to refuse to answer our questions like you accused Bro Epley of doing, but that is the truth. Live with your accusation if you can. But I did not lie. Period.

...FOR THE RECORD.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I am going to make this last response to you, which I would not normally have done, since you are blatantly obsessing over the thought that you cannot be wrong. But you misjudged my entire ministry as a preacher publicly and this requires a statement from me.

I did not lie to you. I explained what I meant. Whether you interpret what I said the way I explained it or not, I gave the honest explanation of my statements you quoted. Call me a liar and mar my entire ministry, and continue to refuse to answer our questions like you accused Bro Epley of doing, but that is the truth. Live with your accusation if you can. But I did not lie. Period.

...FOR THE RECORD.

Forget it. The man CANNOT- will not- has not answered your arguments so he does this stuff to cloud the water.