((O NO!!!))Donnie McClurkin's Ex Lover telling ALL! and it's NOT GOOD

[AmazingGrace]

Originally Posted by tamor

Troublemaker!!

You know you were thinking it too!!!

[tamor]

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace

You know you were thinking it too!!!

Nobody knows that but you, though!!

[AmazingGrace]

Originally Posted by tamor

Nobody knows that but you, though!!

Oh ok .... I wont tell no one.... just Thad!!!

[tamor]

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace

Oh ok .... I wont tell no one.... just Thad!!!

That's all you have to tell if you want something told!!!

[AmazingGrace]

Originally Posted by tamor

That's all you have to tell if you want something told!!!

I didnt say it yall!!! SEE I DID NOT SAY THAT!! She did but I made her talk!!! ROFL

[tamor]

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace

I didnt say it yall!!! SEE I DID NOT SAY THAT!! She did but I made her talk!!! ROFL

Tag. You're it!!

[Thad]

*** BISHOP YVETTE WRITES SCATHING ATTACK AGAINST DONNIE!***Hello Everyone :



Subject: Bishop Yvette Flunder on Donnie McClurkin


Please see the following message from Bishop Yvette Flunder regarding the resurgence in coverage of Donnie Mclurkin's stance as an ex-gay, brought on by presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama's decision to appear on the same stage with him during a fundraiser last week in South Carolina.

As many of you know Bishop Flunder is the Founder and Senior Pastor of City of Refuge United Church in Christ. A former member of the Walter Hawkins Singers, she runs a powerful ministry that addresses a range of issues, including those that directly impact us as African descended lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender or same gender loving people.

Bishop Flunder is a partnered, out lesbian of 20+ years and as one of our foremost affirming spokespeople she often finds herself ministering to pained and closeted clergy who are living double lives.

Best,
Katina Parker
Media Strategist, Communities of African Descent
GLAAD
**********************************************

A Call to the SGL Community to Stop the Pain

I read with sadness the dialogue with an alleged former lover of Rev. Donnie McClurklin who claims he and Rev. McClurklin were actively intimately involved while Donnie was very verbal regarding his negative views about homosexuality. I remembered the pangs of the double church life. I also once thought it was necessary. I hurt so for him because I have been there. I have been angry with him for some of the places he has allowed himself to be manipulated into and for some of the things he has said and written. I have read with disgust Donnie’s remarks about waging war against the Gay community, but I really know that this duplicitous rhetoric is because of the war that is raging inside of him. Sometimes we just try to fake it till we make it. And then there are the harder questions that plague him and many of my beloved colleagues in ministry… How do you succeed as a gospel music artist, a Pastor and a Gay man? How can the choice be made to have the integrity to stand in your orientation reality when it will mean losing everything, especially when your principle income is not just based on your gifts but on the believability of your testimony of deliverance from being Gay? What a huge dilemma.

My challenge today is not to the churches and religious institutions that have rejected SGL folks or that have forced us to positions of invisibility or don’t ask don’t tell. Why can’t SGL folks and our allies build mega churches, mega organizations, and mega faith based enterprises? We are building them for our abusers! Why is so much of our talent, money and skill under girding and supporting institutions that are blatantly undermining our freedoms and attacking our personhood? Imagine what we could accomplish if we would bring those skills together to build something that is devoid of shame and supports the inalienable rights of all people. Why contribute to our own debasement and marginalization? Why won’t we support those who support us? It seems many of us would rather leave church than support affirming church. Is it fear? Is it greed? Is it internalized hatred, self-loathing, or internalized homophobia? Sure, aligning with an affirming ministry or faith-based community may bear a cost. There may be some loss of prestige and even funds for a period, but isn’t it time we pay the price for our own freedom the same way so many of our forefathers and foremothers did? Sister and Brothers, think of the continued price we pay in the loss of our self-esteem, integrity and the inevitable exposure.

Donnie could have just as big a church in New York with a membership made up of SGL folks, allies, and people whose theology has evolved to the point that they do not need to hold to a narrow exclusionary Godview that limits the table of God to only a few. What stands in the way of our supporting our own? Is it the need for big church pageantry? Anonymity?

This is a call to stop the pain. I challenge SGL people of faith to support the churches and organizations that affirm us, and wait for the growth that our talents and abilities are certain to bring. We know the game and we are killing ourselves with it. Enough is enough. I pray that we will take seriously the prophetic call and challenge to not only seek to be liberated but to seek to liberate.

Pax Christi! (Peace in Christ)
Bishop Yvette Flunder


tiredofhype
Joined: 10/09/2007
Posts: 571 Posted: Nov/01/2007 10:47 PM (report inappropriate content) Quote | Reply

This is confusion and it is of SATAN . This is a prime example of calling good evil and evil good


tiredofhype
Joined: 10/09/2007
Posts: 571 Posted: Nov/01/2007 11:07 PM (report inappropriate content) Quote | Reply

[SoCaliUPC]

I think we have only seen the beginning. IF a democrat is elected into the White House...the attack on the church, similar to what you see here, will begin in full force. They will now have an advocate in the White House.

Sad.

[Trouvere]

Oh my the SGL community speaks out to affirm the sin.I guess that is to encourage people to stay in bondage.Sin is sin and we all have a different struggle but to say someone cannot be delivered and that they just
should go on and give into it and become a part of a group that is just as bound is the most vicious lie hell ever promotes.

[GodsBabyGirl]

Originally Posted by Jeanie

Could be a smear campaign against DM because of his stand against gays and the upcoming election year?

DM has been mentioned on mainline news stations for his beliefs on homosexuality and Obama having DM perform musically for him-

Can we really trust a testimony from a homosexual wanting to push their aganda?

I agree totally....

Hey Jeanie...can you post a pixie of baby? I can't believe it's been a year already??????

Love ya