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10-23-2007, 08:48 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Originally Posted by Timmy
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yes, that's why some OP preachers say don't use the "Lord Jesus Christ" formula, it's the same as saying "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
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10-23-2007, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
If someone prays to Allah, does "I truly believe God is smart enough to know it is He, that is being referred to" still work?
Or how about if Noah used something other than what God told him to build an ark, does God say "Im sure he meant well" and wink at his disobedience?
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Prax: I don't think the question was, is this baptism ok? In the name of the father son and holy ghost...which is Allah?
Try to stay on the thread 
Hopefully you don't know any Christians baptized that way?
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10-23-2007, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam
yes, that's why some OP preachers say don't use the "Lord Jesus Christ" formula, it's the same as saying "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
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Thankfully this silliness is a fleeting fad from the past. Though I heard of this briefly 20 years ago, I know of none currently teaching such error.
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10-23-2007, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Kutless
My friend has left his UPCI church to go a different route. He says its so his wife will go to church with him. The church he goes to know baptizes like this:
"I now baptize you in the name of the Father, son and H.G. in the name of Jesus."
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Thirty some years ago we attended a UPCI church in IL, and the pastor always used similar wording when he baptized people. He was a good pastor and Bible teacher ; a few books/booklets he wrote were published at Hazelwood;
so I just attributed it to him...a great man but not affected by UPCI peer pressure......and we were near St Louis. He had a unique ministry.
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10-23-2007, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam
yes, that's why some OP preachers say don't use the "Lord Jesus Christ" formula, it's the same as saying "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
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NO, it is not the same. You must use the name.
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10-23-2007, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Miller
NO, it is not the same. You must use the name.
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I second this. The NAME of JESUS CHRIST MUST be invoked over one during baptism.
Using "Jesus, Jesus' Name, Lord Jesus, Lord Jesus Christ, etc" are not compatible with Acts 2:38. Saying in the Name of the "Lord Jesus Christ" is equal to saying "Father=Lord Son=Jesus Holy Ghost=Christ" a three-fold name ... I would have to conclude that JESUS CHRIST is the ONLY Name that needs to be used during baptism. Acts 4:12 said "Neither is there salvation in ANY other, there is NO other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved."
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10-23-2007, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by commonsense
Thirty some years ago we attended a UPCI church in IL, and the pastor always used similar wording when he baptized people. He was a good pastor and Bible teacher ; a few books/booklets he wrote were published at Hazelwood;
so I just attributed it to him...a great man but not affected by UPCI peer pressure......and we were near St Louis. He had a unique ministry.
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Just wondering, what was the pastor's name and are his books still available from the PPH?
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10-24-2007, 12:01 AM
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I mostly use the name of Jesus Christ, and I help my pastor with baptisms, but I did baptize a woman who was in her 80s who has since gone on ,in the name of The Lord Jesus Christ I think it was valid.
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10-24-2007, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Caston Smith
I second this. The NAME of JESUS CHRIST MUST be invoked over one during baptism.
Using "Jesus, Jesus' Name, Lord Jesus, Lord Jesus Christ, etc" are not compatible with Acts 2:38. Saying in the Name of the "Lord Jesus Christ" is equal to saying "Father=Lord Son=Jesus Holy Ghost=Christ" a three-fold name ... I would have to conclude that JESUS CHRIST is the ONLY Name that needs to be used during baptism. Acts 4:12 said "Neither is there salvation in ANY other, there is NO other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved." |
Acts 2:38 be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ
Acts 8:16 they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus
Acts 10:48 he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord
Acts 19:5 they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus
Seems there was diversity in the "formula"
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10-24-2007, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Sam
Acts 2:38 be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ
Acts 8:16 they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus
Acts 10:48 he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord
Acts 19:5 they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus
Seems there was diversity in the "formula"
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In EVERY one of them the name of Jesus is mentioned. NO where did they use the titles. The power in the name of Jesus. Therefore the name MUST be in it.
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