Disaffiliation with the UPC????

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Kutless

and what about the music?????? Did they have some of them there devil sticks called geetars.

music that sounds like things i listened to before i got in church.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

no not sleeves to the elbow.notice that i said unmodest if i was talking about sleeves to the elbow i would have said they didnt have the same standard we have(now above the elbow thats a diffrent story)but im talking about high slits and very low necklines and form fitting clothes

Something in the "worldly" category as opposed to "nudity?" Except you say "above the elbows." I guess short sleeves are completely out of the question for fellowship with you?

And then again you have to ask if the offending young people were purporting to be examples and leaders, or if perhaps their youth pastor was rounding up backsliders and "strays" hoping to see some pray through at the conference. Kind of defeats the purpose of having such conferences if a youth pastor can't feel comfortable bringing his prodigals to hear some good preaching and to be around other young people who would be a good influence on them. By ostracizing them and him you really hinder the ministry.

I suppose to avoid such awkward social encounters in the future you could fellowship at the Wahhabi Mosque in your area while the offending youth pastor drops his kids off at a crack house. But then nobody would get to hear the great preaching or to be influenced by others kids who are on fire for the Lord.

There's got to be some middle group between the Wahhabists and the crack house.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Something in the "worldly" category as opposed to "nudity?" Except you say "above the elbows." I guess short sleeves are completely out of the question for fellowship with you?

And then again you have to ask if the offending young people were purporting to be examples and leaders, or if perhaps their youth pastor was rounding up backsliders and "strays" hoping to see some pray through at the conference. Kind of defeats the purpose of having such conferences if a youth pastor can't feel comfortable bring his prodigals to hear some good preaching and to be around other young people who would be a good influence on them.

I suppose to avoid such awkward social encounters in the future you could fellowship at the Wahhabi Mosque in your area while the offending youth pastor drops his kids off at a crack house. But then nobody would get to hear the great preaching or to be influenced by others kids who are on fire for the Lord.

There's got to be some middle group between the Wahhabists and the crack house.

notice my point was not sleeves it was slits and very low necklines and im not talking about just anyone but people on the platform.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

notice my point was not sleeves it was slits and very low necklines and im not talking about just anyone but people on the platform.

Bit by bit. Thanks.

(now above the elbow thats a diffrent story)

So, young women display their cleavage and thighs on the platform at Western District Youth Conference? That is scandalous. I don't know what they were thinking but it was obviously not Christ centered. When was this meeting? Personally I would like to make a couple of phone calls.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Bit by bit. Thanks.


So, young women display their cleavage and thighs on the platform at Western District Youth Conference? That is scandalous. I don't know what they were thinking but it was obviously not Christ centered. When was this meeting? Personally I would like to make a couple of phone calls.

actully i was talking about people in my section i have not seen it that bad there yet.i would say what we didnt like at youth convention but i really dont want to tear anyone down and almost everyone knows this church.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

actully i was talking about people in my section i have not seen it that bad there yet.i would say what we didnt like at youth convention but i really dont want to tear anyone down and almost everyone knows this church.

"Showing their umentionables" "cleavage" "splits really high" you've already torn them down. Who are these Jezebels? Throw her down!

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

actully i was talking about people in my section i have not seen it that bad there yet.i would say what we didnt like at youth convention but i really dont want to tear anyone down and almost everyone knows this church.

HTG... are you saying that there was Cleavage showing at WD Youth Convention and Slits above the knee's on the Platform leading worship?

Did you actually see these kids or did you just hear about it?

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by revrandy

HTG... are you saying that there was Cleavage showing at WD Youth Convention and Slits above the knee's on the Platform leading worship?

Did you actually see these kids or did you just hear about it?

SORRY maybe i confused everyone.high slits and low necklines that i was talking about were from section youth meetings NOT wd youth convention.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by revrandy

HTG... are you saying that there was Cleavage showing at WD Youth Convention and Slits above the knee's on the Platform leading worship?

Did you actually see these kids or did you just hear about it?

He didn't say "WDY Convention" he said at "Youth Conferences." I asked, giving examples trying to get more elucidation. We got it narrowed down to a particular unnamed church in his section on the platform at a "Conference" where "unmentionables" "cleavage" and "thighs" were on display. For this reason he is hesitant to fellowship with other UPC churches.

And who can blame him RevRandy? What do you guys do out there in CA? I don't see that kind of stuff at my kid's public high school. Even the Goth chicks dress more modestly.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by pelathais

He didn't say "WDY Convention" he said at "Youth Conferences." I asked, giving examples trying to get more elucidation. We got it narrowed down to a particular unnamed church in his section on the platform at a "Conference" where "unmentionables" "cleavage" and "thighs" were on display. For this reason he is hesitant to fellowship with other UPC churches.

And who can blame him RevRandy? What do you guys do out there in CA? I don't see that kind of stuff at my kid's public high school. Even the Goth chicks dress more modestly.

Maybe we should go to more Football games than to all these conferences..seems there are more folks who need the Lord there anyways...