What pray through? That plan doesn't work. Let's just ignore it, hide it under the rug so it'll go away...God helps those who help themselves. Prayer is good, but trust, communication, unconditional love and surrender are as much a part of the componenent as a S.N. prayer meeting and everybody laying hands on one another.
What pray through? That plan doesn't work. Let's just ignore it, hide it under the rug so it'll go away...God helps those who help themselves. Prayer is good, but trust, communication, unconditional love and surrender are as much a part of the componenent as a S.N. prayer meeting and everybody laying hands on one another.
I don't think Rev meant "laying on hands" in the traditional sense....
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
I don't think Rev meant "laying on hands" in the traditional sense....
I left it open for interpretation.........
I once met a young man who had been trained as a police officer. He went to Fort Worth to ride with a veteran officer to see if he'd like to take a job. They got called to a domestic abuse situation. He veteran officer explain to the man that had been beating his wife that it was in his best interest for the Police not to have to come out to this kind of call again. The young man told me "He beat the living daylights" out of the abuser. And it got his attention. The young man decline the job offer.
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Psa 119:165 (KJV) 165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.
"Do not believe everthing you read on the internet" - Abe Lincoln
explain to me how a woman who works full time to provide for this family is supposed to pick up after them when they are physically capable of picking up after themselves? Where does it say the WOMAN is the maid, cook and chief bottle washer.
Nothing will make me madder, faster than for me to be ON MY WAY HOME from work and I get a call wanting to know what is for dinner and what "plans" do we have for the evening..and I get home and the house is a wreck and there are at least 3 able bodied MALES who could have: 1. put on a load of clothes, 2. taken out the trash 3. cleaned up after themselves in the kitchen 4. picked up any 1 of their 1000s of shoes that are blocking the door 5. cleaned their rooms 6. mowed the grass 7. picked up the junk around the yard...the list is endless...
but they all are just sitting there waiting for ME to feed them
where in the bible does it say that it is MY problem???
Psst......you forgot to read this in her post:
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Stay at home mothers and wives should see to their responsibilities just as earnestly as they expect their husbands to provide for them.
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I've gone and done it now! I'm on Facebook!!!
PP...you publically rebuke twenty something men who refuse to get a job?
As a pastor I do not openly, publically or privately rebuke anyone. Not even the devil. Not even the ark angel would bring a railing accusation againt Satan, but said "the Lord rebuke thee" contending for the body of Moses. Why? Because because Satan is the accuser of the brethren. I would seriously ask you reconsider how you treat the flock.
Just because that's they way you were taught, doesn't make it right. By publically humiliating people you are offending their spirit, the spirit of Christ that dwells in them.
No offense, but I don't give a flyin' fajita what you think I should or should not do in the church.
As a pastor, there are times when public rebuke is an absolute necessity. Especially when young, purposefully-unemployed men want to dictate the direction of the church PUBLICLY in business meetings or planning sessions.
I will tell them to keep silent because they are IN SIN!!!!! So, you see, there is a difference in our understanding here. You apparently think lazy, selfish, abusers should have a voice in the church.
I don't.
What we need are some real men who know how to treat a woman. Maybe then these women wouldn't need to fill positions they were never meant to fill. Some of these women got raw deals.
No offense, but I don't give a flyin' fajita what you think I should or should not do in the church.
As a pastor, there are times when public rebuke is an absolute necessity. Especially when young, purposefully-unemployed men want to dictate the direction of the church PUBLICLY in business meetings or planning sessions.
I will tell them to keep silent because they are IN SIN!!!!! So, you see, there is a difference in our understanding here. You apparently think lazy, selfish, abusers should have a voice in the church.
I don't.
What we need are some real men who know how to treat a woman. Maybe then these women wouldn't need to fill positions they were never meant to fill. Some of these women got raw deals.
No offense, but I don't give a flyin' fajita what you think I should or should not do in the church.
As a pastor, there are times when public rebuke is an absolute necessity. Especially when young, purposefully-unemployed men want to dictate the direction of the church PUBLICLY in business meetings or planning sessions.
I will tell them to keep silent because they are IN SIN!!!!! So, you see, there is a difference in our understanding here. You apparently think lazy, selfish, abusers should have a voice in the church.
I don't.
What we need are some real men who know how to treat a woman. Maybe then these women wouldn't need to fill positions they were never meant to fill. Some of these women got raw deals.
Actions without correction always go unanswered... Correction must be applied for the discipline to work...
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