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09-20-2007, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
and in regards to the internet,there is blocks and filters that will not even let you get in bad areas on the webb.and if its in someone heart they will find ways around it.we cant preach agaist everything but we will preach against sin.if the upci allows advertising on the t.v., may GOD help us!
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You seem like an inteligent person, so I'll assume you allready know that TV has an on and off button. Another neat feature on the remote is the ability to change the channel. Then ther is the mute button too.
as for blocks and filters the the web offers. TV's have the same feature to block content you don't want your kids to be ale to see.
Since you are posting here i'll assume you have internet in yor home.
How, oh please tell me how, you folks are able not to go to ABC or NBC dot com and watch any thing they offer. You can do that on you puter there bud.
Your argument that you control what you see on the NET vs. what I see on TV is so full of holes...I get embarrassed for you conservatives when I hear it brought up again.
It is just so stoopid !! 
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09-20-2007, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
You seem like an inteligent person, so I'll assume you allready know that TV has an on and off button. Another neat feature on the remote is the ability to change the channel. Then ther is the mute button too.
as for blocks and filters the the web offers. TV's have the same feature to block content you don't want your kids to be ale to see.
Since you are posting here i'll assume you have internet in yor home.
How, oh please tell me how, you folks are able not to go to ABC or NBC dot com and watch any thing they offer. You can do that on you puter there bud.
Your argument that you control what you see on the NET vs. what I see on TV is so full of holes...I get embarrassed for you conservatives when I hear it brought up again.
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09-20-2007, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
the upc does have legs to stand on regarding t.v.
95% of t.v. goes against the word of God.(i will not dig throgh a trash can for a slice of cake).even are world today teaches that t.v. is not good for you.the reason why most of you will not say its wrong is because your flesh likes it and you dont have the backbone to kick it out of your house.
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Welcome, newbie. 95% of tv goes against the word of God? Nice statistic . . . what are the numbers based on? 
You want to talk about tv, but leave yourself open in regards to the internet, radio, magazines and just about anything else modern.
I seem to remember there being something in the Bible about gluttony, but that hasn't stopped ministers from chowing down at the buffet.
Tip for newbies, before you make a statement like, "the reason why most of you will not say its wrong is because your flesh likes it and you dont have the backbone to kick it out of your house," you should probably be sure we actually have a tv in our home.
I don't, therefore your point is moot. Just because I think the UPC should allow the freedom of choice in advertising doesn't mean I own a television.
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
and in regards to the internet,there is blocks and filters that will not even let you get in bad areas on the webb.and if its in someone heart they will find ways around it.we cant preach agaist everything but we will preach against sin.if the upci allows advertising on the t.v., may GOD help us!
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I believe someone beat me to the point. There's a thing called parental controls on the tvs. Every tv has the ability to block channels based on ratings or content. And as was also mentioned, there's the on/off button or the channel arrows that allow for one to not have to watch anything offensive.
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09-20-2007, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
the upc does have legs to stand on regarding t.v.
95% of t.v. goes against the word of God.(i will not dig throgh a trash can for a slice of cake).even are world today teaches that t.v. is not good for you.the reason why most of you will not say its wrong is because your flesh likes it and you dont have the backbone to kick it out of your house.
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I think your judgment is skewed on this one htg. You may in fact be "projecting." You see, simply because you lack the ability to exercise self control doesn't mean that others do as well. It may be that you simply fear you lack the ability - in any case, you are projecting your own weakness and fear upon those around you. It's a simple case of your own ego overwhelming your discernment.
The fact of the matter is, most educated people see television as a potential problem in their homes, but also as a useful tool; kind of like the sledge hammer out in the garage. If used properly the sledge hammer is handy for a lot of tasks around the home; repairing the fence, setting stakes in the garden, etc. If used improperly the sledge hammer could in fact destroy your home. So do we throw out the sledge hammer?
Just because you don't have the strength to keep yourself from pecking away at your own foundation doesn't mean that others who are educated and trained in handling these issues can't be trusted with the tools in question.
Basically, I see people like you as being like those kids that play with tools that they don't know how to use. They end up with smashed thumbs, missing fingers and holes and cracks in the foundations of their homes. The "lesson" they learn is not to be skillful and expert in the use of tools, but instead they learn to be fearful and afraid. When they (you) see another kid pick up a hammer they (you) immediately launch into some horror story about how you lost a finger tip.
Without tools the house will fall into disrepair. Improperly using those tools will result in people being maimed and skittish of the work that needs to be done. Education and training is what we need; not projections of your own weaknesses upon those around you.
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09-20-2007, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pelathais
I think your judgment is skewed on this one htg. You may in fact be "projecting." You see, simply because you lack the ability to exercise self control doesn't mean that others do as well. It may be that you simply fear you lack the ability - in any case, you are projecting your own weakness and fear upon those around you. It's a simple case of your own ego overwhelming your discernment.
The fact of the matter is, most educated people see television as a potential problem in their homes, but also as a useful tool; kind of like the sledge hammer out in the garage. If used properly the sledge hammer is handy for a lot of tasks around the home; repairing the fence, setting stakes in the garden, etc. If used improperly the sledge hammer could in fact destroy your home. So do we throw out the sledge hammer?
Just because you don't have the strength to keep yourself from pecking away at your own foundation doesn't mean that others who are educated and trained in handling these issues can't be trusted with the tools in question.
Basically, I see people like you as being like those kids that play with tools that they don't know how to use. They end up with smashed thumbs, missing fingers and holes and cracks in the foundations of their homes. The "lesson" they learn is not to be skillful and expert in the use of tools, but instead they learn to be fearful and afraid. When they (you) see another kid pick up a hammer they (you) immediately launch into some horror story about how you lost a finger tip.
Without tools the house will fall into disrepair. Improperly using those tools will result in people being maimed and skittish of the work that needs to be done. Education and training is what we need; not projections of your own weaknesses upon those around you.
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Very well said, Pelathais. "... and above all get understanding...", if we equip ourselves and our children they are not easily deceived.
Fear hinders so many from becoming all they can become, and is even distrustful of the power of the Spirit of God, to make them overcomers.
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09-20-2007, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pelathais
I think your judgment is skewed on this one htg. You may in fact be "projecting." You see, simply because you lack the ability to exercise self control doesn't mean that others do as well. It may be that you simply fear you lack the ability - in any case, you are projecting your own weakness and fear upon those around you. It's a simple case of your own ego overwhelming your discernment.
The fact of the matter is, most educated people see television as a potential problem in their homes, but also as a useful tool; kind of like the sledge hammer out in the garage. If used properly the sledge hammer is handy for a lot of tasks around the home; repairing the fence, setting stakes in the garden, etc. If used improperly the sledge hammer could in fact destroy your home. So do we throw out the sledge hammer?
Just because you don't have the strength to keep yourself from pecking away at your own foundation doesn't mean that others who are educated and trained in handling these issues can't be trusted with the tools in question.
Basically, I see people like you as being like those kids that play with tools that they don't know how to use. They end up with smashed thumbs, missing fingers and holes and cracks in the foundations of their homes. The "lesson" they learn is not to be skillful and expert in the use of tools, but instead they learn to be fearful and afraid. When they (you) see another kid pick up a hammer they (you) immediately launch into some horror story about how you lost a finger tip.
Without tools the house will fall into disrepair. Improperly using those tools will result in people being maimed and skittish of the work that needs to be done. Education and training is what we need; not projections of your own weaknesses upon those around you.
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Your post above was by far the best response to the opinions of the more conservative members of our movement regarding the TV issue than I have read to date.
Excellent.
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09-20-2007, 08:07 PM
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We UPCers must be afraid of our own shadow!!! Bro. Bernard is clearly attempting to influence those who will listen to his old, blow-dried argument AGAIN...
...we're so concerned of the BOGIEMAN that we can't get out of our own way spiritually and evangelistically...
...we're still focused on THINGS...not SOULS...
...let's see what we can condemn today...technology...opposing opinions...brethren...all with the excuse of holiness...
...can we get any further away from true holiness...I fear our leaders don't have a clue...
...God forbid, they get a glimpse of the real world with real people and real needs and real dispair...no, just harp and harp and harp...
...Shakespeare was right, "much ado about nothing."
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09-20-2007, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
the upc does have legs to stand on regarding t.v.
95% of t.v. goes against the word of God.(i will not dig throgh a trash can for a slice of cake).even are world today teaches that t.v. is not good for you.the reason why most of you will not say its wrong is because your flesh likes it and you dont have the backbone to kick it out of your house.
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DO you know how much trash you had to dig through to enjoy this internet???
Enjoy your cake.
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09-20-2007, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RevBuddy
We UPCers must be afraid of our own shadow!!! Bro. Bernard is clearly attempting to influence those who will listen to his old, blow-dried argument AGAIN...
...we're so concerned of the BOGIEMAN that we can't get out of our own way spiritually and evangelistically...
...we're still focused on THINGS...not SOULS...
...let's see what we can condemn today...technology...opposing opinions...brethren...all with the excuse of holiness...
...can we get any further away from true holiness...I fear our leaders don't have a clue...
...God forbid, they get a glimpse of the real world with real people and real needs and real dispair...no, just harp and harp and harp...
...Shakespeare was right, "much ado about nothing."
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Souls? What's that?
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09-20-2007, 08:36 PM
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the ultracon
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Originally Posted by Strongminded
DO you know how much trash you had to dig through to enjoy this internet???
Enjoy your cake.
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