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08-29-2007, 10:45 AM
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LOL...
I am simply wondering if this district prohibition thing might be a way for the conservative districts to keeo\p the conservative from leaving the org...
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As I stated on the other thread, part of the problem is for people like me. Although Kansas might pass a prohibition, I feel quite certain Missouri would not.
I am only a few miles from the Missouri border. Television broadcasts won't stop at the state line.
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08-29-2007, 10:47 AM
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As I stated on the other thread, part of the problem is for people like me. Although Kansas might pass a prohibition, I feel quite certain Missouri would not.
I am only a few miles from the Missouri border. Television broadcasts won't stop at the state line.
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Meaning what? That you could watch the broadcasts? But you can't...because the allowance is for advertisement, not ministers owning a television...right? 
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08-29-2007, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher
As I stated on the other thread, part of the problem is for people like me. Although Kansas might pass a prohibition, I feel quite certain Missouri would not.
I am only a few miles from the Missouri border. Television broadcasts won't stop at the state line.
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I see...
In that circumstance I can see where you'd be between a rock and a hard place.
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08-29-2007, 10:49 AM
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Meaning what? That you could watch the broadcasts? But you can't...because the allowance is for advertisement, not ministers owning a television...right? |
He means the use of it for advertisement....the resolution does not changr the no tv in the home rule.
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08-29-2007, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher
As I stated on the other thread, part of the problem is for people like me. Although Kansas might pass a prohibition, I feel quite certain Missouri would not.
I am only a few miles from the Missouri border. Television broadcasts won't stop at the state line.
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But, how is a TV allowance different for you in that many of those same Missouri churches allow things such as wedding rings and shorter sleeves right now and have for the years that you have been in the org?
Are not your people already accustomed to other UPC churches holding a different line?
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08-29-2007, 10:53 AM
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He means the use of it for advertisement....the resolution does not changr the no tv in the home rule.
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Then I guess it would depend on the district you belong to. If you belong to the Kansas district and the Kansas district has a prohibition in place, then that is the district you have to deal with.
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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08-29-2007, 10:54 AM
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But, how is a TV allowance different for you in that many of those same Missouri churches allow things such as wedding rings and shorter sleeves right now and have for the years that you have been in the org?
Are not your people already accustomed to other UPC churches holding a different line?
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Maybe he doesn't want his saints that sneek and have a TV, to find out about another happening Apostolic church in the area.  J/K
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08-29-2007, 10:57 AM
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Then I guess it would depend on the district you belong to. If you belong to the Kansas district and the Kansas district has a prohibition in place, then that is the district you have to deal with.
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I think that has been the usual practice anyway...some districts have stronger stands on some things...
I am just wondering why tis has not been the approach form the UC side instead of the "I'm gonna leave if it passes" approach.
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08-29-2007, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher
As I stated on the other thread, part of the problem is for people like me. Although Kansas might pass a prohibition, I feel quite certain Missouri would not.
I am only a few miles from the Missouri border. Television broadcasts won't stop at the state line.
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BTW KP, I am not trying to turn this into a slug fest against you or anyone else. My intent is just to discuss tis other paradigm.
I have just wondered this for years and was curious if anyone knew.
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08-29-2007, 11:01 AM
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Hmmm. Appeasiotomy?
Are there ministers in the OK District who want to advertise on TV? |
In defense of OK I will say that the OK district is a fine one. Bro Matthew Martin is one the nicest gentlemen pastors or DS you could ever meet. They have great unity and MM is loved by all in his district. OK is probably conservative to the degree NC or GA is, but they have tremendous unity. The #1 reason is the Holy Ghost---OK has church! #2 reason is the humility, integrity and character of its DS. #3 is the men who pastor in OK are good men who believe in revival and love the ministry and people. They really get along. I attended a section prayer breakfast several years ago and the prayer with one another, the breakfast and fellowship following was refreshing.
I don't know anything about the politics of OK, but what I know and have observed is that its one of our up and coming districts. While other districts are cutting back their camp meeting schedules to three, four or five days, OK still goes Sunday-Friday with maximum crowds every night (2500-3000 people---the day crowds are 1,000 strong).
I know the DS told the preachers that he was personally against res 4 and will vote against it, but that he warned the preachers not to react hastily and move to leave the UPC or sow discord as a result, to keep a good attitude.
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