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08-23-2007, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tamor
I know a couple of women personally who are just plain ole mean. They will fist fight and tangle with men. One of them is married for the third time and I know that she and her first two husbands were engaged in many physical fights. She may fight this one. I just haven't heard about it if she does.
The other chick is a divorced woman who is physically abusive to her ex, for goodness sake. He has gone to her house on more than one occasion to pay child support or to pick up or talk to his children and she would slap, scratch, pinch, and spit on him. She has hit him in the face twice and broken his glasses. He has not filed a report because he does not want to "embarrass" his children. It makes me wonder what she does to the kids when he's not around......
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And this reversal of roles (so to speak) is far more common that we realize or would speak of. I taught school for several years and you would not believe the number of kids who come from homes where the mother abuses the father. The father's don't file charges because the abusive wife will turn the table on the husband and our society is conditioned to believe the woman's story. I listened to many sad stories from some of the kids I taught.
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08-23-2007, 01:20 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
Last night I had a dream of the kind of revival God wants in this country...and why it is not yet here.
I will not tell the dream but I will say we need to exam our motives and throw out the net...
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Sis. Alvear...
a couple of nights ago a man was out walking near our house... so I began to walk with him... He is a Baptist Minister...
We had a bible study last night and he attended... after the study we were talking and he relayed that as he was walking and I joined him for a short time God spoke to him and told that him that he needed to get to know me because I had "something" for him... he said he wasn't sure what that something was... but He said it will come...
I find that God will work things out when we reach out... I agree with you and say our motives be hanged if they are not centered around sharing Jesus..
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08-23-2007, 01:21 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Location: Brazil, SA
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The Apostolic church is in need of seminars and other means of help to deal with the problems we are facing in this present day.
Lots of people are hurting...and many times the pastor has no clue...the pastor needs helpers, qualified helpers. If you cannot get helpers there are good books on the market that can help prepare helpers.
We deal with not only one type of abuse but many types of abuse, deep hurts, a day when people´s BEST friend shoots their brains out and the best friend had NO CLUE that something was wrong.
I spend hours in my office taking to people...
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08-23-2007, 01:22 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Originally Posted by revrandy
Sis. Alvear...
a couple of nights ago a man was out walking near our house... so I began to walk with him... He is a Baptist Minister...
We had a bible study last night and he attended... after the study we were talking and he relayed that as he was walking and I joined him for a short time God spoke to him and told that him that he needed to get to know me because I had "something" for him... he said he wasn't sure what that something was... but He said it will come...
I find that God will work things out when we reach out... I agree with you and say our motives be hanged if they are not centered around sharing Jesus..
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So true, Brother Randy. We are God´s people and we must be sensitive to His voice.
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08-23-2007, 01:22 PM
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My friend is working in a center maybe like the one you mentioned above. Girls just walk off the street and come in and they encourage them to have their babies, give them advice etc...who started this work where my friend is working?
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Most of these places have the same goal: To minister to the IMMEDIATE need of the pregnant girl. To encourage the girl to carry the baby to term is usually the first goal followed by teaching a healthy lifestyle, and encouraging adoption if they can't care for the baby themselves (which is usually the case).
And last but not least, to offer plenty of emotional support since they either A) don't go to church in the first place or B) usually find very little at most churches anyways. And a modified "C)", provide support when the parents don't. We never hear about the parents who DO stand by their daughters but there are still plenty who don't.
What don't they do? Cram Jesus down their throat the moment they walk in the door. And they CERTAINLY don't cram any 'standards', rather they follow the lesson of the good Samaritan.
By the way, my sister is a nurse there so knee deep in the 'medical needs' department.
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08-23-2007, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
I will tell you friends we are letting the other churches set up centers to help people...to help the unwed...the aids patients, this and that...Where oh where are we?
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Amen, Sister, too amny of our men are building their kingdoms made of tangible things here on earth, i.e. boats and motors to fish out of, R.V.'s to travel and vacation in, 60 - 80 thousand dollar vehicles at the turn of two or three or four, traveling to conferences every month, and vacationing in foriegn lands for weeks or a month at a time, going on lavish ski trips and exotic hunting trips. That is why we can't afford programs in the church that help the needy, homeless, unwed mother, divorced mom or dad with several children and only one income and so on and so on....
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08-23-2007, 01:24 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Stockton, California
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
The Apostolic church is in need of seminars and other means of help to deal with the problems we are facing in this present day.
Lots of people are hurting...and many times the pastor has no clue...the pastor needs helpers, qualified helpers. If you cannot get helpers there are good books on the market that can help prepare helpers.
We deal with not only one type of abuse but many types of abuse, deep hurts, a day when people´s BEST friend shoots their brains out and the best friend had NO CLUE that something was wrong.
I spend hours in my office taking to people...
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I think you've hit the nail on the head here..
I think many pastors struggle when they don't have all the answers and are afraid to let people get others advice... "Go pray about it" doesn't work many times
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08-23-2007, 01:26 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Brazil, SA
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I have another friend that is working with abused girls...Oh, what sad stories she relates to me...we need more of this type ministry in our mist. There are so many people with not only needs that live OUT THERE but people among us, maybe sitting on the pew next to us that have needs...
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08-23-2007, 01:26 PM
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I think many pastors struggle when they don't have all the answers and are afraid to let people get others advice... "Go pray about it" doesn't work many times
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This is why I was conditioned MANY years ago to not let people see me pray -for anything! If I had a problem and someone saw me praying the attitude was "Praise God! He's laying it down at the alter! No more problem for him!"
Oh I pray plenty in private, as well as a more continues "talking to God" -although some may say, talking to myself. But I do everything I can to not let people know what is going on.
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08-23-2007, 01:34 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
This is why I was conditioned MANY years ago to not let people see me pray -for anything! If I had a problem and someone saw me praying the attitude was "Praise God! He's laying it down at the alter! No more problem for him!"
Oh I pray plenty in private, as well as a more continues "talking to God" -although some may say, talking to myself. But I do everything I can to not let people know what is going on.
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You never really realize sometimes how much "conditioning" there is in the church until you break free...
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