"And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry; Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I OBTAINED MERCY, BECAUSE I did it IGNORANTLY IN UNBELIEF. And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus."
Paul was killing what he believed to be blasphemers against the Torah.
Paul wasn't raping innocent children.
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Funny you say that. I have wondered if Paul's killing of believing men isn't the reason why he wrote so about widows and fatherless children. Just a thought. If so, talk about fighting feelings of guilt.
I think that the guilt and the burden of that was something that weighed heavily on Paul at times and comes across in his writing if you're perceptive enough to pick up on it.
Another reason why "grace" meant so much to him and was a large factor and important ingredient in his writing.
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I think that the guilt and the burden of that was something that weighed heavily on Paul at times and comes across in his writing if you're perceptive enough to pick up on it.
Another reason why "grace" meant so much to him and was a large factor and important ingredient in his writing.
Excellent.
__________________ "Nikita Khruschev said, "the living will envy the dead," why are so many people bent on surviving a nuclear war?
I think that the guilt and the burden of that was something that weighed heavily on Paul at times and comes across in his writing if you're perceptive enough to pick up on it.
Another reason why "grace" meant so much to him and was a large factor and important ingredient in his writing.
AMEN! I concur!
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Funny you say that. I have wondered if Paul's killing of believing men isn't the reason why he wrote so about widows and fatherless children. Just a thought. If so, talk about fighting feelings of guilt.
Profound thoughts!!!
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Yes, they had issue with having Paul among them. I always wondered if any thought he was just there to gather names for later persecution. But the issue with Paul is that he did what he did because of IGNORANCE.
1 Timothy 1:12-13
(12) And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;
(13) Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
There is NO WAY the preacher in question did what he did through ignorance. This makes his case MUCH different! And, consequently, disqualifies him from his pastoral position and calling.
1 Timothy 3:1-7
(1) This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
(2) A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
(3) Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
(4) One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
(5) (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
(6) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
(7) Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
This man completely disqualified himself from meeting these criteria when he sinned in the manner he did. This does not mean he cannot be saved, just that he can no longer serve in the calling of a pastor or a preacher.
Funny you say that. I have wondered if Paul's killing of believing men isn't the reason why he wrote so about widows and fatherless children. Just a thought. If so, talk about fighting feelings of guilt.
Outstanding thought. Makes you take Paul's writings in a whole new light.
Reading this guys mo and thinking on it makes me wonder what would
happen if he began to again have marital problems and hanging
around the youth group???? Or maybe the older ladies group? hum...seems he
thinks it was his circumstance that pushed him over into the urges not
his ugly heart.
I think that the guilt and the burden of that was something that weighed heavily on Paul at times and comes across in his writing if you're perceptive enough to pick up on it.
Perhaps Paul should have made a trip to Calvary. It has a way of washing away all guilt and stain.
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Funny you say that. I have wondered if Paul's killing of believing men isn't the reason why he wrote so about widows and fatherless children. Just a thought. If so, talk about fighting feelings of guilt.
You might have to remind me, but I don't remember Paul talking so much about widows and fatherless children.
Why am I always in disagreement???
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Another reason why "grace" meant so much to him and was a large factor and important ingredient in his writing.
Felicity,
I don't think that preaching of grace is any part of that factor at all.
Paul was the Apostle of Grace. He is the one to whom the revelation of grace was revealed. He called it "my gospel." Grace was not revealed to Peter, James or John in the way that it was revealed to Paul. He received this revelation while he was away two years in the wilderness after his conversion. It was hard to be understood by the other Apostles. Peter declared that Paul had written things that was hard to be understood, but had written according to the knowledge and revelation that God had given to him.
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