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Old 08-12-2007, 07:34 PM
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Brother Strange said that God is for war when it is "just." Who determines "just"? When are we called to be the jude and executioner? I thought Jesus said He would avenge?

(Romans 12:19) Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Going to war to take revenge or for vengeance is NOT a just war.
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:37 PM
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Same God, right?
Yes sir! So is eye for an eye the policy for the New Covenant Church?
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:41 PM
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He was talking about personal disputes, not national policy.

If you adjoin yourself with a national policy you make it personal.
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Old 08-12-2007, 08:20 PM
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If you adjoin yourself with a national policy you make it personal.
If God wants to fight the spread of Islam using the American Army then I am all for it!
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Old 08-12-2007, 08:21 PM
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Yes sir! So is eye for an eye the policy for the New Covenant Church?
These weren't people that attacked the Israelites. These were the people God just told them to destroy because they were in the way of His plans. He's God. He can do stuff like that.
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Old 08-12-2007, 08:45 PM
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If God wants to fight the spread of Islam using the American Army then I am all for it!
But where does Jesus say that you should be?
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Old 08-12-2007, 08:47 PM
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These weren't people that attacked the Israelites. These were the people God just told them to destroy because they were in the way of His plans. He's God. He can do stuff like that.
So God can kill innocent people if they are in His way?

So God can murder, but we can't...unless it is in the national interest? Is that what you are saying? Where do you get that in your Bible?
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:05 PM
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So God can kill innocent people if they are in His way?

So God can murder, but we can't...unless it is in the national interest? Is that what you are saying? Where do you get that in your Bible?
He's God. He can do whatever He wants. Whether you believe it, or care to admit it, God ordered the deaths of untold thousands, maybe more, people, so He could establish Israel as a nation. Since you agree that the God of the NT is the same God of the OT, then we are obviously talking about Jesus.
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I cannot believe God wants us killing each other. There must be a higher road for God´s people.
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:29 PM
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I cannot believe God wants us killing each other. There must be a higher road for God´s people.


Sister Alvear, there is a big difference in killing someone and murdering someone.
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