Looking For Church to Pastor

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

SEVEN LESSONS ON STARTING A CHURCH

1. Visit an area where there are several churches

2. Visit each of them.

3. Stand at the back door and meet the people.

4. Listen for a disgruntled word

5. Lend a sympathetic ear

6. Start a prayer meeting in your home

7. Invite those that you met at the church.

No Thanks! God called us to be fishers of men, not keepers of the aquarium swapping fish from tank to tank.

Originally Posted by bishoph

No Thanks! God called us to be fishers of men, not keepers of the aquarium swapping fish from tank to tank.

If I could proclaim the POST OF THE DAY, I'd CHOOSE THE ONE I AM QUOTING HERE FROM bishoph!!!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by bishoph

No Thanks! God called us to be fishers of men, not keepers of the aquarium swapping fish from tank to tank.

I agree, but all to often that's the way we establish new churches.

This is not to be critical, but

I've lived in the Cincinnati area for about 50 years.

In 1925, Bro. F.E. Curts came here from Indiana and started a church with about 13 people. This was a split from a previous church pastored by someone with the name of Brown. Bro. Curts' church was called Bethlehem Tabernacle and later became First Apostolic. For quite a few years, Bro. Curts was Dist. Supt. of the Ohio Dist. of the UPC.

In 1945 a group split off and formed the Full Gospel Church. They were not allowed to be a UPC church. At one time they were AMC (Apostolic Missionary Council) and then later ALJC. The Church name later changed to Carthage Apostolic and then later to Covenant Apostolic.

First Apostolic Church had a split in 1968 and the group that left was established as Calvary Pentecostal pastored by Bro. and Sis. Norman Paslay. It is now pastored by their son and called Calvary Church. This has always been a UPC church.

A group left Covenant Apostolic and in time became Greater Apostolic Assembly in Loveland, OH and became a UPC church.

After Bro. Joe David Sizemore died in January 2003, Bro. Hendricks came and since he is UPC, that church is now considered UPC.

So, today in Cincinnati we have 3 UPC churches that I know of:
First Apostolic
Calvary Church
Covenant Apostolic
all came from that original split in 1925.

There are other Apostolic churches in the Cincinnati area but I'm not sure of their origins. (like the one pastored by Bro. Meade who is AMF, plus several churches which are predominantly African American).

Quite a few years ago, a church was established called the Western Hills Apostolic Church. This was not a split. Bro. Eugene Price who had been part of Bro. Sizemore's Church (ALJC) established it with the blessing of his pastor. I don't remember the year. Later this became a UPC church (back in the mid to late 1970's I think). It is now pastored by one of his sons and is part of Global Network.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

As moderate/liberal as I am . . . I completely disagree with you here. If I were a Pastor, I would stay far away from Amarillo with this kind of attitude. Putting demands on a Pastor and telling him/her what to or not to preach is as wrong as a lot of these man-made doctrines and traditions.

JMO

I agree with you.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Originally Posted by Rico

I agree with you.

I agree as well.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve
As moderate/liberal as I am . . . I completely disagree with you here. If I were a Pastor, I would stay far away from Amarillo with this kind of attitude. Putting demands on a Pastor and telling him/her what to or not to preach is as wrong as a lot of these man-made doctrines and traditions.

Speaking for myself I would say I would not put demands on anyone or tell them what to preach. If they do not already preach that which is true they are probably not called into the ministry anyway. I would simply ask so I would know going in what a Pastor believes.

If someone does not care what their Pastor believes and teaches that does not sound like loving the truth.

Originally Posted by Old Paths

Visit an area where there are several churches, visit each of them, stand at the back door and meet the people, listen for a disgruntled word, lend a sympathetic ear, start a prayer meeting in your home, invite those that you met at the church.

That must be the newest definition of "fishers of men", elder!

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

My "perfect" Frankenstein Pastor would have....

1. the compassion and love of Elder Strange
2. the humor of Deacon Blues
3. the down-to-earth attitude of Pastor Poster
4. the temperance of MOW
5. the command of doctrine possessed by Truly Blessed and Adino
6. the command of language of tbpew
7. the honesty and frankness of Elder Epley
8. the genuine friendliness of DWW
9. the wit of Coonskinner

Now Bro. Dan, I know you left me off the list ONLY because I AM the sum of the parts!

Originally Posted by ALVIN

I would sooner have my head put into an industrial vice, and have it tightened a half turn every day!

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Sam

I agree, but all to often that's the way we establish new churches.

This is not to be critical, but

I've lived in the Cincinnati area for about 50 years.

In 1925, Bro. F.E. Curts came here from Indiana and started a church with about 13 people. This was a split from a previous church pastored by someone with the name of Brown. Bro. Curts' church was called Bethlehem Tabernacle and later became First Apostolic. For quite a few years, Bro. Curts was Dist. Supt. of the Ohio Dist. of the UPC.

In 1945 a group split off and formed the Full Gospel Church. They were not allowed to be a UPC church. At one time they were AMC (Apostolic Missionary Council) and then later ALJC. The Church name later changed to Carthage Apostolic and then later to Covenant Apostolic.

First Apostolic Church had a split in 1968 and the group that left was established as Calvary Pentecostal pastored by Bro. and Sis. Norman Paslay. It is now pastored by their son and called Calvary Church. This has always been a UPC church.

A group left Covenant Apostolic and in time became Greater Apostolic Assembly in Loveland, OH and became a UPC church.

After Bro. Joe David Sizemore died in January 2003, Bro. Hendricks came and since he is UPC, that church is now considered UPC.

So, today in Cincinnati we have 3 UPC churches that I know of:
First Apostolic
Calvary Church
Covenant Apostolic
all came from that original split in 1925.

There are other Apostolic churches in the Cincinnati area but I'm not sure of their origins. (like the one pastored by Bro. Meade who is AMF, plus several churches which are predominantly African American).

Quite a few years ago, a church was established called the Western Hills Apostolic Church. This was not a split. Bro. Eugene Price who had been part of Bro. Sizemore's Church (ALJC) established it with the blessing of his pastor. I don't remember the year. Later this became a UPC church (back in the mid to late 1970's I think). It is now pastored by one of his sons and is part of Global Network.

Ahhh Yes.

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