How much stock do you put in prophecy?

[LadyChocolate]

Originally Posted by originalsecretplace

Don't even get me started on the REAL reason some of these people are invited to a church or set up shop in your neighbourhood.

It's all about the money....

I don't think ALL of these people who minister in prophecy are into it for the money but I haven't met one who wasn't either invited to get people to give to the cause de jour and/or told you that you had to show your faith by giving money before God could do His work.

I thinl they like to call it "planting a seed". To me it's almost like paying for someone to read your palm.

I am very leary of those "prophets" who are invited to come to a church because he is known for his prophetic ministry. People line up at the doors because they want a word. Those kind of people make me think of those who don't want to sacrifice and get on their face and plow their way thru spiritual warfare to get an answer from God ON Their OWN. It saddens me when they pack out a church because a preacher is known for his healing ministry....Because the focus becomes that " this guy can heal me" and the focus is off of God.... And yet, I know that many have been healed in services like these because God honors faith! Faith moves God. I can't stand to see men do what they do "in the name of God" But the real men of God that I know, who are used in prophecy, they are just plain ole preachers (no disrespect meant)who lay on their face before God, who sacrifice their time and seek God's face. They fight thru spiritual warfare, they fast, dig into the Word....yeah, those are the ones that I have faith in......Hearing from God doesn't come cheap.......

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Being given a prophetic word isn't always about foretelling. It's forthtelling in other words simply someone speaking into your life with a word of knowledge or word of wisdom that oftentimes confirms what God has already spoken to you and lets you know God knows where you're at and gives added knowledge or wisdom to encourage you in your situation.

I had this happen again just last Sunday AM. I was praying with someone else in the altar and the evangelist came along, laid hands on me and began to minister to me in the Holy Ghost and woah!! ... was the presence of God ever powerful and real.

He had no clue as to my own personal circumstances or situation or what's been going on in my life, my head or my heart yet he spoke directly and nailed right on the head where I've been at in regards to ministry.

I asked my husband yesterday if he's been talking to this preacher about me. He assured me that no, he definitely had not! That let me know that God spoke through this man with the word of knowledge and totally zeroed in on where I've been at .... like I said in regard to my own personal walk with God and usefulness and then let me know what the truth is, what God has for me and the promise that God's anointing, presence and power is with me.

Now it's up to me ..... (as it always is with all of us of course ) ..... whether or not I'm going to get on board and cooperate with what God is wanting and desiring and got planned for me.

Amen, Sis. Felicity...many people do not know the difference.

It is always a blessing when a man or woman of God will speak a word of confirmation in our spirit.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

There has to be a real before there can ever be a counterfeit.

I agree, Elder...I have seen and experienced the real thing and it was always such a blessing.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

I am very leary of those "prophets" who are invited to come to a church because he is known for his prophetic ministry. People line up at the doors because they want a word. Those kind of people make me think of those who don't want to sacrifice and get on their face and plow their way thru spiritual warfare to get an answer from God ON Their OWN. It saddens me when they pack out a church because a preacher is known for his healing ministry....Because the focus becomes that " this guy can heal me" and the focus is off of God.... And yet, I know that many have been healed in services like these because God honors faith! Faith moves God. I can't stand to see men do what they do "in the name of God" But the real men of God that I know, who are used in prophecy, they are just plain ole preachers (no disrespect meant)who lay on their face before God, who sacrifice their time and seek God's face. They fight thru spiritual warfare, they fast, dig into the Word....yeah, those are the ones that I have faith in......Hearing from God doesn't come cheap.......

You might not would have been comfortable following Jesus then, because there were masses of people coming for healing.

Why shouldn't they be able to do that today?

[LadyChocolate]

Originally Posted by Esther

You might not would have been comfortable following Jesus then, because there were masses of people coming for healing.

Why shouldn't they be able to do that today?

You didn't understand...Maybe I didn't make myself clear.... i am speaking of those who want to make a name for themselves. They want to make a profit form the prophecies. When Christ healed them, he told them not to tell anyone. I know the difference between the real and counterfeit. I have a problem with those who use the name of God for their own glory...I've been in services where the minister was just going about healing and fortelling money to people, and then fill up his guitar case full of money..... I've also been in services where God was truly using the minister and people were healed. I've seen people healed of cancer. I have seen people who have tumors go back to the doc and the tumor be gone. I've have seen disease fall leave, miraculously.... And I watch as the real men of God walk away humbly and they don't even want a thank you because they feel so unworthy to be used by God. They don't ask for more money because they prophecied...... I've seen the difference.

Originally Posted by Sam

Same would apply to tongues and interpretation.
T + I = P
Tongues plus Interpretation equal Prophecy.

Tongues and interpretation are like two nickels and prophecy is like a dime.

Tongues and interpretation have nothing whatsoever to do with prophecy. They are separate gifts. You are spouting mere Pentecostal false "tradition" and not what the Bible itself says.

[LaVonne]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Being given a prophetic word isn't always about foretelling. It's forthtelling in other words simply someone speaking into your life with a word of knowledge or word of wisdom that oftentimes confirms what God has already spoken to you and lets you know God knows where you're at and gives added knowledge or wisdom to encourage you in your situation.

I had this happen again just last Sunday AM. I was praying with someone else in the altar and the evangelist came along, laid hands on me and began to minister to me in the Holy Ghost and woah!! ... was the presence of God ever powerful and real.

He had no clue as to my own personal circumstances or situation or what's been going on in my life, my head or my heart yet he spoke directly and nailed right on the head where I've been at in regards to ministry.

I asked my husband yesterday if he's been talking to this preacher about me. He assured me that no, he definitely had not! That let me know that God spoke through this man with the word of knowledge and totally zeroed in on where I've been at .... like I said in regard to my own personal walk with God and usefulness and then let me know what the truth is, what God has for me and the promise that God's anointing, presence and power is with me.

Now it's up to me ..... (as it always is with all of us of course ) ..... whether or not I'm going to get on board and cooperate with what God is wanting and desiring and got planned for me.

Felicity, just curious...wouldn't a "word of knowledge" or a "word of wisdom" be just that...I never thought those things to be considered prophesey. I'm sincerely curious about this...we've had several "prophets" come through our church over the years who were basically false prophets in my opinion and focused more on sensationalism. However, I do know a prophet or two among us and have full confidence in their ministry.

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by Chan

Tongues and interpretation have nothing whatsoever to do with prophecy. They are separate gifts. You are spouting mere Pentecostal false "tradition" and not what the Bible itself says.

Brother Chan they can be prophecy for the whole church.The tongue goes forth and then after the interpretation. Still prophecy as a gift stands on its own as well.
Thankfully I have experienced the use of all the gifts in a congregation.

Originally Posted by Trouvere

Brother Chan they can be prophecy for the whole church.The tongue goes forth and then after the interpretation. Still prophecy as a gift stands on its own as well.
Thankfully I have experienced the use of all the gifts in a congregation.

No. Prophecy is entirely separate from tongues and interpretation.

[LaVonne]

From what I understand, tongues and interpretation are for the edification of the church.

Edification means moral improvement or guidance.