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Old 07-14-2007, 12:16 PM
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Bro Brett,

My issue with what you have posted above is that to say that "God might impute salvation to them" would mean that either everything we stand for is on shaky ground and we "might" be wrong, or Gods did not make it clear in scripture what it takes to be saved.

My friends, This is not about Howard Goodman, nor has it been. It is about those that say they believe the Apostles doctrine is biblically the only way, and then give leeway for folks to have a possibility of being saved outside of it. I may be accused of being judgmental, but it is not me that judges. The Word of God is the 'rule" that we are to go by. It is the Word of God that condemns the unwashed sinner, not me. It is the Word of God that either makes a man acceptable, or rejected. Those that knowingly reject the Word of God reject the God of the Word. And by that Word they will be judged.

I am going to be very blunt here. If you believe that God "might" save someone without their being water baptized in Jesus Name, then you do not truly believe that Acts 2:38 is the only method of salvation. Maybe you do not see the inconsistency of your position, but I do. And I am sure there are others that do as well.
Matt, through it all you are indeed my friend...but I must say this....The issue I have with you is that your wording limits God...He is Soverign and he can choose to do what he wants.
I think Brett is simply saying that We must preach it as we know it, love and believe it....But in the end...IT all up to an omnipotent God.
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First Bro,

I am sorry that I hijacked your thread. This was not about Howard Goodman. It was about your proclamation that someone that rejected Jesus name baptism even "might" make it.

The True heartbeat of God is lined out, line upon line, and precept upon precept, within His Word. What you are attempting to believe makes the Word incomplete. To say that someone "might" make it outside of Acts 2:38, and then claiming you believe Acts 2:38 to be salvational, shows inconsistency, and instability in the doctrine of salvation. Either Gods word is plain about this subject, or it is not. Gods sovereignty does not go against his Word.
I repeat........Bravo and Ditto........good post Matt.....
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Uhhh...if you read what he said....he said he received a PM calling him a liar....
Why not let it go?

GWS is not here to make any rebuttal, so we are simply tearing him down needlessly here.

I will not post contents of PM here either.
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uhhhhh.... it also used the words "edit the thread"..........so I guess I am still right..........
uhhh no because the thread in question was my thread and my post and I Can go in and edit my post for a certain period of time.
So you are still wrong.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:18 PM
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Matt, through it all you are indeed my friend...but I must say this....The issue I have with you is that your wording limits God...He is Soverign and he can choose to do what he wants.
I think Brett is simply saying that We must preach it as we know it, love and believe it....But in the end...IT all up to an omnipotent God.
So you are saying He can choose to go against His own Word? .......... If He desires to? Is that what you are saying.........
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:19 PM
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Matt, through it all you are indeed my friend...but I must say this....The issue I have with you is that your wording limits God...He is Soverign and he can choose to do what he wants.
I think Brett is simply saying that We must preach it as we know it, love and believe it....But in the end...IT all up to an omnipotent God.
So you believe Gods Word is incomplete in regards to salvation??


And this has never, nor will it ever, be about our friendship. We do not have to see alike for me to continue that friendship.
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uhhh no because the thread in question was my thread and my post and I Can go in and edit my post for a certain period of time.
So you are still wrong.
your thread.... his post....you cant touch his post......final answer.....and you might want to back off of the VB stuff........
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:23 PM
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your thread.... his post....you cant touch his post......final answer.....and you might want to back off of the VB stuff........
Oh Please......Back off the VB stuff????
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uhhh no because the thread in question was my thread and my post and I Can go in and edit my post for a certain period of time.
So you are still wrong.
Slow down.....he said "edit the thread" - - that you cannot do.
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So you are saying He can choose to go against His own Word? .......... If He desires to? Is that what you are saying.........
No Jim....Im saying Im sooo tried of guys and their final answers to life, liberty and the pursuit of salvation.
Im saying let God be God and the rest of us continue to be sheep. Strange he calls us sheep.....the dumbest animal on the face of the planet with the smallest brain.
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