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Old 06-29-2007, 11:37 PM
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The words Nazi, Auschwitz, & Hitler should never be used today in referencing someone because it cheapens the suffering of The Holocaust, this is not my opinion, its standard protocol....
Now, I do agree with many assessments by Danny boy...
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:43 PM
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yes even Auschwitz Rapid Ultra Communistic Conservative.
This was my favorite part. So verbally expressive.
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:51 PM
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I was fine with the latter 4, good TIC, but not the first...ever. Unless someone is gassing people, killing the weak, and murdering 6,000,000, the words do NOT crossover.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:30 AM
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What I simply mean is that I would be alot more apt to take advice or even rebuke from a fellow minister then just a saint or someone with no spiritual authority in my life.
I am a whole lot more able and willing to admit my shortcoming to another man of God that may know a little more of what a minister goes through then just a "poster".
Hope that explains what I mean.
Yes, this may be the clearest explanation of the great divide between lay and clergy I have ever seen. And I've seen some clear ones.

OK, folks, on this side of the gap, we laymen must never speak of anyone on the other side, except in a fawning, adoring, approving tone. We may beat each other up, but we mustn't touch the anointed across the chasm.

On their side, they and only they can point out the specks in each other's eye. And the planks in ours, of course. We are "just saints", after all. We don't know what a minister "goes through". We don't know much of anything, I suppose.
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I was fine with the latter 4, good TIC, but not the first...ever. Unless someone is gassing people, killing the weak, and murdering 6,000,000, the words do NOT crossover.
That was his point, Monkeyman. The verbal expression.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:42 AM
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Would you give me a HUGE BREAK!! I knew somebody would come in and try to destroy what I was trying to say...I am shocked it was you!
Was using EXTREMES...it was a figure of speech....Referring to the Control of the Germans.And was said VERY TIC!

Sit back..take a breath and read what I said.....I addresed the WHOLE scope.
I find Taliban Apostolic to be a better descriptive term. Using Nazi labels ALWAYS loses points.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:58 AM
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OK...OK...I understand the problem...it was meant TIC and I mean no offense whatsoever.....
I never thought it might hit someone personal...sorry BOOM...you know me better than that.
I wrote this thread with the utmost in sincerity...for get the whole Aushwitz thing...it was in bad taste and I will edit the original post.

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OK...so it wont let me edit.....My original thought was that of control and concentration camp...not the holocost and what went on there...again...I do sincerely apologize.
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Old 06-30-2007, 08:30 AM
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I find Taliban Apostolic to be a better descriptive term. Using Nazi labels ALWAYS loses points.

I think both are vile terms to use when describing Apostolic people of any stripe.
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Old 06-30-2007, 09:21 AM
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I think both are vile terms to use when describing Apostolic people of any stripe.
I find the Nazi analogy over the line although I have used the term gestapo in relaton to certain things in old time Pentecostal.

I do think that for some the Taliban is an apt decription. The Taliban just actually does (when in power) what many ultra con Pentecostals would do if they had the power.

Now I don't mean the indiscriminate killing, terrorism, etc. I do mean the extreme leglalism or "standards" that they imposed on the public through a radical Islamic government when they governed Afghanistan.

I think if many ultra cons had half a chance they would very quickly outlaw makeup,jewelry, and pants on women. All women. Same goes for closing movie theaters, shutting down TV broadcasting or at least greatly restricting it to nothing immodest, banning all music except gospel (and perhaps country since many like it secretly - at least in the Deep South of Ms. and La.!!!).

That is where I think the Taliban analogy is right on the money. I have related before how just before we invaded Afghanistan I read a news article describing a border crossing between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The Afghan checkpoint was basicly a shack with miles and miles of audio tape that had been stripped from cassettes hanging on the walls. They did not allow any music tapes or CD's into Afghanistan except for religious sermons and chants. I remember thinking that is what ultra con OP's would do in America if given half a chance.
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:55 AM
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Not to side track this discussion too much... but everyone is uber sensitive about the Nazi term and rightly so I suppose, but why is no one simiarly riled about the Commie comments?
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