What logic and Bible is used against beards?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Early "Christian" attitudes on beards

• "The hair of the chin showed him to be a man." St Clement of Alexandria (c.195, E), 2.271
• "How womanly it is for one who is a man to comb himself and shave himself with a razor, for the sake of fine effect, and to arrange his hair at the mirror, shave his cheeks, pluck hairs out of them, and smooth them!…For God wished women to be smooth and to rejoice in their locks alone growing spontaneously, as a horse in his mane. But He adorned man like the lions, with a beard, and endowed him as an attribute of manhood, with a hairy chest--a sign of strength and rule." St. Clement of Alexandria, 2.275
• “This, then, is the mark of the man, the beard. By this, he is seen to be a man. It is older than Eve. It is the token of the superior nature….It is therefore unholy to desecrate the symbol of manhood, hairiness.” St. Clement of Alexandria, 2.276
• "It is not lawful to pluck out the beard, man’s natural and noble adornment." St. Clement of Alexandria, 2.277
• "In their manners, there was no discipline. In men, their beards were defaced." St Cyprian (c. 250, W), 5.438
• "The beard must not be plucked. 'You will not deface the figure of your beard'." 19:32 St. Cyprian, 5.553
• "The nature of the beard contributes in an incredible degree to distinguish the maturity of bodies, or to distinguish the sex, or to contribute to the beauty of manliness and strength." Lactantius (c. 304-314, W), 7.288
• "Men may not destroy the hair of their beards and unnaturally change the form of a man. For the Law says, “You will not deface your beards.” For God the Creator has made this decent for women, but has determined that it is unsuitable for men." Apostolic Constitutions (compiled c.390, E) 7.392. (1)

And then, of course, let's not forget the "early 'apostolic' history."

Early Azusa Street Revival


William Joseph Seymour


Frank Bartleman


Charles Fox Parham

Bro, they also had women preachers

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Bro, they also had women preachers

Now you're starting something...

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Now you're starting something...

[Sister Alvear]

Could someone give me some points and views against beards....let's leave women preacher out out this thread...thanks...I am involved in a little group and we are studying beards...since I am a woman I am not familiar with the whys and why nots...thanks

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Could someone give me some points and views against beards....let's leave women preacher out out this thread...thanks...I am involved in a little group and we are studying beards...since I am a woman I am not familiar with the whys and why nots...thanks

There are no scriptures against beards, It's a holiness tradition

[Sister Alvear]

No scriptures? Ok...then what is used against beards?
and for those that try to read between the lines I am not trying to get anyone to wear a beard...I personally don't even like a beard...However I am part of a discussion group somewhere else and I was asked the why's and why nots...

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

No scriptures? Ok...then what is used against beards?
and for those that try to read between the lines I am not trying to get anyone to wear a beard...I personally don't even like a beard...However I am part of a discussion group somewhere else and I was asked the why's and why nots...

The idea of being clean shaven as a contrast to the hippie generation, I think that is all there is to it

[Sister Alvear]

someone else?

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

someone else?

I would suggest Larry Booker’s book “What a Difference a Line Can Make”.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Early "Christian" attitudes on beards

• "The hair of the chin showed him to be a man." St Clement of Alexandria (c.195, E), 2.271
• "How womanly it is for one who is a man to comb himself and shave himself with a razor, for the sake of fine effect, and to arrange his hair at the mirror, shave his cheeks, pluck hairs out of them, and smooth them!…For God wished women to be smooth and to rejoice in their locks alone growing spontaneously, as a horse in his mane. But He adorned man like the lions, with a beard, and endowed him as an attribute of manhood, with a hairy chest--a sign of strength and rule." St. Clement of Alexandria, 2.275
• “This, then, is the mark of the man, the beard. By this, he is seen to be a man. It is older than Eve. It is the token of the superior nature….It is therefore unholy to desecrate the symbol of manhood, hairiness.” St. Clement of Alexandria, 2.276
• "It is not lawful to pluck out the beard, man’s natural and noble adornment." St. Clement of Alexandria, 2.277
• "In their manners, there was no discipline. In men, their beards were defaced." St Cyprian (c. 250, W), 5.438
• "The beard must not be plucked. 'You will not deface the figure of your beard'." 19:32 St. Cyprian, 5.553
• "The nature of the beard contributes in an incredible degree to distinguish the maturity of bodies, or to distinguish the sex, or to contribute to the beauty of manliness and strength." Lactantius (c. 304-314, W), 7.288
• "Men may not destroy the hair of their beards and unnaturally change the form of a man. For the Law says, “You will not deface your beards.” For God the Creator has made this decent for women, but has determined that it is unsuitable for men." Apostolic Constitutions (compiled c.390, E) 7.392. (1)

And then, of course, let's not forget the "early 'apostolic' history."

Early Azusa Street Revival


William Joseph Seymour


Frank Bartleman


Charles Fox Parham

Wow.

Makes me wonder...

Who has really removed the "ancient landmarks" on this issue?

Maybe I'm more "old time" than I thought. Lol