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Old 05-29-2017, 09:26 AM
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Re: What Did You Get Out of Voting For Trump?

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He rocks for partially quoting me to insinuate that I didn't already commit to taking her in to help her, so he could accuse me of not doing so?

Wow.

And honestly when I read what I responded to, I was dealing with a severe thunderstorm, crying baby and just got out of a awesome church...I was a bit distracted and didn't see where you said you would take her in...I sincerely apologise...I wasn't trying to paint you in a bad light. I really was serious about saying it's time government stopped being our God though.

Aquila, I'm not throwing bombs here but who is you and your mother in laws provider ultimately? Is it God or is it man?

I'm not posting this sitting on billions up in my Ivory tower....I have nothing right now... nothing. I have no job, I have no place of my own. My vehicle is in rough shape. I went from making 45,000 a year to not having a job at all.

We don't have money for doctors...our faith by necessity has exploded...both of us have been healed miraculously.

We drive a hour and a half one way to church and I can count on one hand the times we have missed in 6 months.

There's other things that I'm not going to share that would make our situation even seem worse but God is in control and He has never left or forsaken us. I don't put my trust in man for my health or my financial provision.

Bro, if I was going hungry I know a Good who fed a prophet with ravens...I know a Christ who told them to "cast on the other side" I know a Good who through the man of God multiplied meal and oil to out last the famine and multiplied oil to pour into vessels borrowed enough to redeem her son's out of slavery, pay of her debt and live for the rest of their lives.

I serve the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The God who told Abraham,"Wherever your foot touches that will I give you."

They didn't even know His name, but we do!

We have a better covenant!

If you are sincerely worried about the state of affairs for your provision and your loved ones, might I remind you about who is in ultimate control?

We are told in scripture that it is God who sets rulers in power. He lifts them up and brings them down.

Just like under Obama, for whatever reason, God placed him into power, Trump is now in power.

See, you serve the God who put Trump where he is, and ultimately if God is the one who sets rulers into power and He raised Trump into position...it's a God thing and He has a purpose for it. It doesn't mean we won't have complaints.

God is the one who raised Pharaoh into power.

Now if God put them into power, it's not up to us to depose them but to find God's purpose in the appointment.

The Democrats and Republicans can do what they wish, but I don't look to them for my protection, salvation or my provision.

I worship The Lord, maker of Heaven and Earth.

I'm not posting things to try to stir the pot. I'm posting truth and how I'm living.

Might I humbly suggest, that when it comes to God's provision that there three avenues we might travel?

1. Believing He is able and He will.
2. Believing that He is able and He won't.
3. Believing that He can't.

If I truely follow the first, I can't complain and worry.

If I follow the second, I doubt His heart.

If I follow the third, I doubt His power.

Get your eye off of man.

With your complaints, you place Trump on a much higher pedestal than the rest of us do because you give him the power to withhold blessings and give them...he is just a man, not a god.
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Old 05-29-2017, 11:23 AM
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A much better President that HC would have EVER been!
I shiver to think what we would be enduring had she
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Old 05-29-2017, 11:31 AM
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Re: What Did You Get Out of Voting For Trump?

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I'd say Mott is twisting the scriptures to promote communism.
Is it possible that the rightwing interpretation of Scripture is too extreme?
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Old 05-29-2017, 11:33 AM
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Is it possible that the rightwing interpretation of Scripture is too extreme?

I'm a Biblical Literalist....I just try and read what's there and I read with no agenda except for wanting to find and understand Truth.
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Old 05-29-2017, 11:34 AM
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No, you save the one nearest to you.
Listen, your realm of help is only to those in the small circle around you.
Thinking that any individual on the Federal level is going to give you anything? Is a pie in the sky.
Wait, a federal program like Medicare successfully helps millions, conservatives break it, and then they tell us we can't trust the federal government. Lol

What they really mean is...we can't trust them.
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Re: What Did You Get Out of Voting For Trump?

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A much better President that HC would have EVER been!
I shiver to think what we would be enduring had she
been elected.
We'd probably still have Obamacare, and would likely still be meddling in other nations' business, like Syria. We'd also probably wind up with some craziness like "no limits on refugees" or something.

Wait... wut?
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Old 05-29-2017, 11:35 AM
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Doesn't anyone know that while commentaries are good and sometimes very helpful. They are still the opinion of the commentator? Aquila what religion did you grow up with?
I was born again, Apostolic, when I was 13.
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Old 05-29-2017, 11:37 AM
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Biblical welfare focused mainly on destitute widows and orphans who had no family support. There is nothing in scripture that can be used as an endorsement of the Scandinavian style welfare state designed to effect every citizen from the cradle to the grave.
That's debatable, I agree.

But their are widows on Medicare that will be essentially kicked to the curb to die. That's against the biblical ethic of justice and compassion required of a nation.
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Old 05-29-2017, 11:39 AM
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Is it possible that a liberal interpretation of Scripture is actually humanism in disguise? Hey, I've made my mistakes, and one of them was straying from scripture, and straying from the right interpretation of it. I decided to close my ears to everything not like Scripture, and just stick with what the Bible says. I may not be 100% right, and I am open to correction, but I know that the vast majority of liberal theology in relation to Scripture is perversion.

I admit it openly that I voted for Trump. I voted for someone who would put the best interests of America first. I did not vote for a pastor, but a President, one that loves America. I voted for someone who had vision, and yes, he has gotten somewhat sidetracked in a couple of things, but I still obey Scripture, and pray for my leader everyday.

As for what I got out of voting for President Trump, I got the hope that something would happen to make my out of control medical insurance usable again. I got the hope of the restoration of this country's borders, language, and culture. I got a President whose First Lady was a model of Americanism, hard work, and integrity despite her past, instead of one who openly said she was ashamed of this country. I got a President who supports the military, law enforcement, and the traditional family. I got a President in favor of draining the swamp and supporting American values, the American worker, and American products. BTW, even though I do not agree with her theology, I have a President whose spiritual advisers is not cursing America and wanting to turn us into a third world nation.

(OK, had to get all that off my chest)

You may now go back to your regularly scheduled diatribes already in progress...
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Old 05-29-2017, 11:41 AM
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We'd probably still have Obamacare, and would likely still be meddling in other nations' business, like Syria. We'd also probably wind up with some craziness like "no limits on refugees" or something.

Wait... wut?
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