Will a man go to hell for wearing a dress?

[COOPER]

Hey I emailed that Scotland UPC and asked about Kilts.

I gave them a link to AFF.

[chseeads]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

What about guys who wear dresses in a comedy play?

Madea done gone split da pit.......

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Brother you are so bitter, hey you need to take care of that.

I am just hav'n fun fellowshipp'n with you on the web.

May your next service be blessed in Jesus name!


Preach it real good and remember the Coop!

[Rico]

I almost named my son Benjamin and planned on naming any others we had Benjamin, but we ended up with 3 girls in a row and I wasn't about to make another one.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Rico

Is that why a conservative started this thread, because liberals are more interested in this issue? Y'all are the ones that scream from your pulpits that people are going to hell for wearing this or that,

Brother Rico, do you think there's any problem with a man wearing long sleeves and long pants, and a woman wearing a dress? Is there a problem with young people dressing conservatively both young sisters and young men?
Should they be warned not to do it? How about if these same people told you that Jesus told them to dress that way would you say to them that they were deluded?

I was in a revival where a woman took off her jewelry and wiped off her make-up and threw her jewelry on the platform while the entire church was shouting and running the pews in the Holy Ghost. Later she told us that Jesus told her to remove the jewelry and the make-up and never use those things again, and that she should never cut her hair again. She had no prior knowledge of the Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness movement, but she did what she did. Should someone have taken her into the church office and straighten her out?

Originally Posted by Rico

but you have the nerve to say it's the liberals more interested in this issue? Yeah, right.

It's the truth Bro, I have never seen more people who have a problem with these issue than the libs. It makes them hotter than hornets.

I have sat and watch them make some flip out comments over a pulpit on the subject of holiness standards, and say things about sister's wearing no make up and no slacks that were digs that were flipped. I had one of my old biker buddies with me at a restaurant and a Charismatic Liberal preacher grabbed my shirt sleeve and yanked it up and said "why don't you let your tattoos show, that's bondage if you can't wear short sleeves and show your past." I thought my old buddy was going to lose it (he wasn't in the church) and said to me "where did that come from!" I had to take a little bit of time to explain to him that religion causes brain damage in some people. So, I have seen it and heard it and read their material against Holiness standards. So Brother Rico they are always harping on the clothes.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Pragmatist]

If it is culturally appropriate, there is nothing wrong with a man wearing a dress. The Bible does not give specifics for men and women, nor is 1950s America God's standard.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Brother Rico, do you think there's any problem with a man wearing long sleeves and long pants, and a woman wearing a dress? Is there a problem with young people dressing conservatively both young sisters and young men?
Should they be warned not to do it? How about if these same people told you that Jesus told them to dress that way would you say to them that they were deluded?

I was in a revival where a woman took off her jewelry and wiped off her make-up and threw her jewelry on the platform while the entire church was shouting and running the pews in the Holy Ghost. Later she told us that Jesus told her to remove the jewelry and the make-up and never use those things again, and that she should never cut her hair again. She had no prior knowledge of the Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness movement, but she did what she did. Should someone have taken her into the church office and straighten her out?







It's the truth Bro, I have never seen more people who have a problem with these issue than the libs. It makes them hotter than hornets.

I have sat and watch them make some flip out comments over a pulpit on the subject of holiness standards, and say things about sister's wearing no make up and no slacks that were digs that were flipped. I had one of my old biker buddies with me at a restaurant and a Charismatic Liberal preacher grabbed my shirt sleeve and yanked it up and said "why don't you let your tattoos show, that's bondage if you can't wear short sleeves and show your past." I thought my old buddy was going to lose it (he wasn't in the church) and said to me "where did that come from!" I had to take a little bit of time to explain to him that religion causes brain damage in some people. So, I have seen it and heard it and read their material against Holiness standards. So Brother Rico they are always harping on the clothes.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Brother, of course I don't have a problem with people wanting to dress in long sleeves and all the other dress code things. The issue is when pastors get it into their heads that it's their job to tell people how to dress and then take scripture completely out of context to go about doing it. I told someone else today that I feel it's an abuse of power. I have never, and never will be, against someone having personal convictions given to them by God. I have some myself. But I don't go around trying to tell people they have to live by my convictions and I certainly don't go around twisting the Word of God to justify demanding that people live by those convictions. If God tells a woman to take off her make up and only wear dresses then, by all means, I am all for her obeying the voice of the Lord. Just because He wants that from one person does not mean He wants it from everybody.

How would you feel if someone got into a pulpit and started telling you you were going to Hell for being on the internet? How about if they used the "I will set no evil thing before my eyes" scripture? Wouldn't you feel like they were twisting the scripture and abusing their power as a preacher? Or would you just obey and do what he said just because he said it and after all, he is the preacher?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Pragmatist

If it is culturally appropriate, there is nothing wrong with a man wearing a dress. The Bible does not give specifics for men and women, nor is 1950s America God's standard.

Hey down in Fort Lauderdale it's acceptable. Come on down there are teenagers who dress uni sex. There are transvestites who are very accepted down here. There are women down here who look manlier than any man.

Also men who look like women and walk a talk like women.

Now let's talk about culturally appropriate who deems culture man or the Bible?


In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Pragmatist]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Hey down in Fort Lauderdale it's acceptable. Come on down there are teenagers who dress uni sex. There are transvestites who are very accepted down here. There are women down here who look manlier than any man.

Also men who look like women and walk a talk like women.

Now let's talk about culturally appropriate who deems culture man or the Bible?


In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Man determines culture. If the Bible determined culture, it would have to be very specific about each item we wear and it is not.

FYI- My father-in-law lives in India and wears a skirt at times. He is not a transvestite in his culture.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Rico

Brother, of course I don't have a problem with people wanting to dress in long sleeves and all the other dress code things. The issue is when pastors get it into their heads that it's their job to tell people how to dress and then take scripture completely out of context to go about doing it.

Take the scripture out of context? That's your perception just as a Trinitarian sees the Trinity and a Dispensationalists sees a Pre-Tribulational Rapture, you see what you see because that's where you want to be.
It's like wanting a Christmas Tree, you and I know that there is no Bible for it, but yet you will have people fight you tooth and nail over it. The same goes for wedding rings; people will fight like wolves over one piece of jewelry when there is no scripture for it. Why? Because it's about agenda, it's about what people want whether it's in the Bible or not. It's the preacher’s job to preach to the people that they should get a prayer life and grow up and if that's accomplished then it will be Jesus who will take care of the rest.

Originally Posted by Rico

I told someone else today that I feel it's an abuse of power. I have never, and never will be, against someone having personal convictions given to them by God. I have some myself. But I don't go around trying to tell people they have to live by my convictions and I certainly don't go around twisting the Word of God to justify demanding that people live by those convictions.

Wait a minute Bro, if someone is in a church they have a duty to study it out for themselves. No body is told anything that they have to do. When I was in the world no Apostolic Pentecostal ever came to my door in the Bronx New York and told me that I couldn't dress a certain way. It's up to the people to study for themselves. Usually people blow off standards because they never believed in them from the start. It was a costume to them just like clown outfit is to Bozo. My wife studied out her convictions on holiness in the original languages and came to her conclusions through the word and prayer. The same goes for myself and everything that I believe. My daughters are compelled to study and as they grow we will TEACH, not yell, not scream or by any beatings. I want them to love Jesus like I love Jesus and not hate Him because they think He is the cause of religious misery.

Originally Posted by Rico

If God tells a woman to take off her make up and only wear dresses then, by all means, I am all for her obeying the voice of the Lord. Just because He wants that from one person does not mean He wants it from everybody.

What if GOD does want that of every person? What if a preacher preached and the Holy Ghost moved in all his revivals and every revival people were baptized in Jesus name and received the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues and the people all said that God told them to change the way they looked?

Would you still be cool with that?

Originally Posted by Rico

How would you feel if someone got into a pulpit and started telling you you were going to Hell for being on the internet? How about if they used the "I will set no evil thing before my eyes" scripture? Wouldn't you feel like they were twisting the scripture and abusing their power as a preacher? Or would you just obey and do what he said just because he said it and after all, he is the preacher?

Brother Rico I have changed my beliefs on issues when I was given a good argument no matter how it was presented I have no problem when I see it in the word or when I hear a good argument against or for it.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com