Taught my fair share of bible studies. Passed out tracks ect..
No where near what the Crouch's have done. I dont no where people get off condemning someone like them. Especially after they are gone.
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He doesnt actually say thats the gospel and if so then it includes
1Co 15:5 and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve,
1Co 15:6 then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, the majority of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep.
1Co 15:7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles,
1Co 15:8 and last of all, as it were to one born at the wrong time, he appeared also to me.
1Co 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
Read it in context
1Co 15:1 Now I make known to you, brothers, the gospel which I proclaimed to you, which you have also received, in which you also stand,
1Co 15:2 by which you are also being saved, if you hold fast to the message I proclaimed to you, unless you believed to no purpose.
1Co 15:3 For I passed on to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures,
1Co 15:4 and that he was buried, and that he was raised up on the third day according to the scriptures,
1Co 15:5 and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve,
1Co 15:6 then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, the majority of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep.
1Co 15:7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles,
1Co 15:8 and last of all, as it were to one born at the wrong time, he appeared also to me.
1Co 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
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Re: Jan Crouch Stroke
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Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh
Taught my fair share of bible studies. Passed out tracks ect..
No where near what the Crouch's have done. I dont no where people get off condemning someone like them. Especially after they are gone.
That's just great!
Did you witness the Lord opening the ears of a person about
75% deaf, through a Bible-study...WITHOUT the benefit of
praying for them? Or stand in a corner with your pockets and
hands full of tracts, praying to the Lord what to do next,
then having the kids come out of their homes and grabbing
the tracts from you? Or having evil spirits (not persons) rush
out of a house like a whirlwind when you rebuked them? Or
the Lord making a short leg the same size as the other, when
you confessed your inadequacy? Have you seen a 5 year old
child get hit by a Cadillac and thrown about 50 feet, and the
Lord raised him up...and the child crying in pain, and the Lord
give you a song to put the child to sleep in an ambulance? Or
gone to the hospital one night, to pray for a little girl in a coma:
and saw the girl the next morning visiting the other patients,
and dragging her IV tray with her?
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Re: Jan Crouch Stroke
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
He doesnt actually say thats the gospel and if so then it includes
1Co 15:5 and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve,
1Co 15:6 then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, the majority of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep.
1Co 15:7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles,
1Co 15:8 and last of all, as it were to one born at the wrong time, he appeared also to me.
1Co 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
Read it in context
1Co 15:1 Now I make known to you, brothers, the gospel which I proclaimed to you, which you have also received, in which you also stand,
1Co 15:2 by which you are also being saved, if you hold fast to the message I proclaimed to you, unless you believed to no purpose.
1Co 15:3 For I passed on to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures,
1Co 15:4 and that he was buried, and that he was raised up on the third day according to the scriptures,
1Co 15:5 and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve,
1Co 15:6 then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, the majority of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep.
1Co 15:7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles,
1Co 15:8 and last of all, as it were to one born at the wrong time, he appeared also to me.
1Co 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
Paul calls it the gospel
He "made known" the gospel (V.1); "...by which you are
saved..." (V.2); "...what I also received..." (V.3). Paul then
makes the gospel known, which is the "...death...burial...and
resurrection..."(V.4) of the Lord Jesus. [V. 5-9], are the
testimony to the Lord's resurrection.
To many keyboard warriors in here. What have people in this thread done to further the kingdom?
This cannot be quantified by anyone. Is not the prayers of the saints contained in bowls in the heavens?
What anyone here has or hasn't done, if they've done but only one thing in their life, and in so doing, God saved a sinner from eternal death, that is a VERY BIG DEAL!!!
To say anything else runs into this:
They that compare themselves among themselves are not wise. What the Crouch's did or didn't do for the kingdom is immaterial. The Kingdom is God's, and He will grow it as He sees fits.
No one can say, "I built this part of God's Kingdom", or "He built the Kingdom of God in this place, or that place", and etc.
Jesus said "Upon this rock I will build my church".
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