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Old 06-08-2007, 10:46 AM
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DA - have you noticed how apostolics are so taken with the way worldly girls dress . . . even more so than worldly guys?
What do you mean "taken with"??
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:49 AM
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Methinks some are constantly thinking about the flesh ... CR, YOU HAVE FRIENDS IN THE WORLD????
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:50 AM
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Crakjak was right ... guys like this get off on VIOLENCE ...


Murder suspect's likely MySpace page sends chills


OLATHE, Kansas (AP) -- He calls himself "Jack" and considers himself a "Sweet Troubled Soul" on his MySpace page. His interests include "eating small children and harming small animals."


The page appears to belong to Edwin R. Hall, the man accused of kidnapping 18-year-old Kelsey Smith and killing her, lending disturbing significance to the bizarre claims in light of the charges against him.
Hall was charged Thursday with first-degree murder in Smith's death and aggravated kidnapping for her abduction Saturday from a Target store parking lot. His bond was set at $5 million.


Only the name "Jack," which Hall is known by to neighbors, is used on the MySpace page, and the picture posted strongly resembles the 26-year-old. The person on the MySpace page also uses the same age and location as Hall, and a person with the same name as his wife, Aletha, has a page linked to "Jack's." (Watch disturbing details of MySpace page )


In a photo on the page, the man is posing with a young boy. Neighbors said Hall and his wife have a 4-year-old son.


It was Hall's neighbors who told police he resembled the man they were looking for.


Cameron Migues, 30, said he and his wife laughed when they noticed a similarity between Hall and the man pictured in a surveillance video that police were using to solicit leads in the abduction.


But then a video of the truck was released, and "we put two and two together," said Migues, who called a police hot line Wednesday morning.
Hall was being held at the Johnson County jail and appeared in court via a video feed looking tired and downcast. He spoke briefly, waiving reading of the charges until he could hire his own attorney. His next appearance was scheduled for June 14.


If convicted, he faces a minimum sentence of 25 years to life in prison for the murder charge and more than 12 years for aggravated kidnapping, Johnson County District Attorney Phill Kline said.


Kline said it was unclear whether the case would be tried in state or federal court but that the death penalty would be possible either way.
It is a federal offense to cross state lines while committing a kidnapping resulting in a death. Authorities have not said how or where Smith was killed. (Map)


"If we believe the crime is severe enough, and we do in this case, we will go to the jurisdiction that provides the most severe penalty," Kline said. "The discussions continue almost around the clock."


Detectives talked to Hall shortly after Smith's body was found Wednesday in a wooded area in Missouri.


Authorities have declined to offer a motive but say there is no evidence that Smith and Hall knew each other.


Neighbor Harold Barry, 50, said he was surprised when he heard Hall had been arrested. Hall recently helped him repair his pickup truck, he said.
"If I can go see him, I will see if I can help him out," said Barry, who added that Hall seemed especially close to his son.


"He loved his son his so much," Barry said. "He had his small kid in that truck every time I saw him."


Smith had been missing since Saturday night, when she went to a Target store in the Kansas City suburb of Overland Park to buy a gift for her boyfriend.


Surveillance video showed her being forced into her car around 7:10 p.m., and the car drove off. It was found in a nearby mall parking lot about two hours later.
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:51 AM
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It's power... not sex that drives these kinds of nutjobs...

She was a victim of opportunity.
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:51 AM
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What do you mean "taken with"??
Obsessed with... Mesmerized by...
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:52 AM
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Maybe we should retitle this thread "A Case for Power"
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:57 AM
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His favorite movie is Strangeland about a schizophrenic serial killer who picks up teenage victims and kills them.
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:58 AM
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Obsessed with... Mesmerized by...
To what end, in admiration, in desire, or in contempt?
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:01 AM
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I highly doubt that the modesty had anything to do with this. I mean sure she may have been seductively dressed, but most of these type of things don't just come into a persons mind at that moment. Usually they plan it ahead or there is some sexual frustration in their life somewhere else and they see a hot girl and there you go. Modesty is not the key to everything, but I agree that it is a fair question. We will see what the outcome is.
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:04 AM
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I'm in Elizabethtown, KY tonight on my way to Ohio. Watching cable news in my hotel room. I saw footage of the poor young lady who was kidnapped and murdered in Bro. Riggens hometown of Olathe, KS. Very, very sad, very, very tragic.

In no way is this young lady's murder ever justified under any circumstances, but I could not help but notice what this young lady was wearing in the security video from the Target store where she was abducted. The despicable young man who has been arrested for her murder was said to be suspected as a stalker. There will be no way of knowing this perhaps, unless this murderer confesses and describes in detail his mental processes, but after seeing her in short shorts and a revealing tank top I wondered if he selected her from the crowd because of all of the flesh she was exposing.

Please do not read this the wrong way! There is no excusing the actions of this evil person! No one deserves such a tragic end to their lives. This young man was looking for a victim and found it in this innocent young lady. My thinking was had this young lady been dressed more modestly, would the perpetrator have passed on her for another young lady.

Its all pure speculation, no one can say for sure, but it made me think how important it is for ladies to remain modest. First and foremost because modesty is pleasing to God. Second, there are a lot of really sick individuals in this world, even in small town America, and women do not need to wear ANYTHING that may draw attention to themselves from ogling eyes. At best it encourages unscrupulous men to gaze and lust. At worst it may gain the attention of a perverse individual who has decided to cross the line from pornographic fantasies to acting out the warped images in their minds.

I appreciate my modest wife! I fully intend to instill modesty principles into the hearts of my sons and daughter! Thank God for being a part of a holiness movement that has always stood for prudence and discretion in our women!

Fantastic post. Well thought out and, in my own opinion, on target. I, too, mourn the loss of that precious soul and don't want to appear 'callous' but I think there is MUCH merit in what Deacon says.

I think that sometimes we forget that God didn't just give us holiness and modesty to make us different; He did it to provide elements of provision, protection and purity. How narrow sighted have we become as an Apostolic movment to think that holiness and modesty serve no other purpose than to make us look different? God's intention was SO MUCH MORE than just 'can' and 'can't' and the sooner we get back to that understanding the better we'll be.

Surely our Godly reasoning should kick back in and help us see the basic principles of holiness and modesty include such things as Deacon Blues has said.

Brother, I applaud you. It really was a great post.
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