If one doesn't accept as an indisputable truth that the Holy Bible contains the recorded words of the Almighty God, then they also will not accept that its revelations about things are true!
Apparently NotforSale is of that mindset (a personal judgment based upon the statements he has made about this matter), therefore unless, and until, he recognizes and acknowledges that God's Word is truth, I see absolutely nothing of value to gained for him or anyone else by even dialoguing with him. Sad, indeed!
Indisputable?? Is that a joke, Lafon? If God had meant for His word to be indisputable (in the human realm) He would have presented it in a way that could not be disputed. That is part of being human, to seek and to pursue God and His truth. Truth is, no human knows the "Indisputable Word of God".
We can and should have a position of faith that we believe is "truth", but knowing that we have grown and accepted "more truth" as we have matured and continued to seek. Since our understanding is progressive, at what point is it "indisputable"?
Intellectual honesty is a great gift, and brings great humility and peace.
But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words.
You believe what you want and live how you want, I'll stick with the Bible and what it says.
I understand you're disgusted and discouraged with man's religion and the various denominations and dogmas, but the word of God is sure and true.
Has anyone here ever talked to God, angels, or the those who have passed on? I don't mean with crystal balls or tarot cards. I'm talking about a "knowing"; an exchange of images, words, sounds, or emotions? A communication on the level of the spirit.
I haven't found a person yet who has experienced this who isn't certain that there is "something" beyond physical life. There is an entire world of spiritual realities that are beyond our five senses. It takes spiritual sight to see it. Spiritual ears to hear it. A spiritual heart to feel it. A spiritual hunger to taste it. A spiritual awareness to sense it.
Yes, and all Religions seek this spiritual realm under the same premise; Spectral Evidence.
But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words.
You believe what you want and live how you want, I'll stick with the Bible and what it says.
I understand you're disgusted and discouraged with man's religion and the various denominations and dogmas, but the word of God is sure and true.
Then why are there over 30,000 Christian Denominations in the World who use the same "Book" you do, but believe differently than you do? Who's right? You?
Then why are there over 30,000 Christian Denominations in the World who use the same "Book" you do, but believe differently than you do? Who's right? You?
The Bible.
It's appointed for man to die... after that comes the judgement.
It's appointed for man to die... after that comes the judgement.
This doesn't answer the question. The above statement is loaded with rules and dogmas that vary between Denominations, and "Who" goes "Where" is anybodies guess.
The Afterlife is a guessing game that humans cannot figure out.
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