Gambling with our kids!!!!

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by secretplace

Is it right? Is it worth it to gamble with our kids?

We place them in vulnerable situations especially our teens which may not be the best for them. Some have godly parents to "watch" over them and some don't. Sad to say, ashes to ashes and dust to dust is pronounced over some of them spiritually.

Yes there are those who argue that fences keep any and all interaction with the world from happening. Hey there's more ways to interact with the world than over a basketball, football etc. I see strength in saying "I don't want a sport to be my god." I know people who have stepped back from great careers in the sports world because they felt it was going to be a hindrance to them spiritually.

And yes there are those who argue that we make "whimps" out of our kids by protecting them from pitfalls.

And yes you are absolutely right that there is no guarantee if you protect them that they will turn out good.

My argument is that teens are too "precious" to be gambled with in the sports arena.

What think ye?

Don't let them to college then. They must stay out of the business field, which can places of great carnality and competition.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by secretplace

So you are of the persuasion that gambling with your kids is a good thing? Of course no one knows what might have happened if the time spent on sports had been spent on things with eternal value like Bible Quizzing or other such activities. Glad you were able to influence others for Christ!

bible quizing is competition. Since when does memorizing the word of God become a sport verses for spiritual edification???

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by secretplace

I disagree. Apostolics have not been led to believe that physical activity is of the devil. I've been led to believe that it "profiteth little". You will surely agree with that statement?

Actual it can profit alot.
That scripture folks qoute about bodily excercise profiteth little has nothing to do with physical excercise such as running, b-ball and such...

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

One thing some refuse to acknowledge is that competitive athletics has its own distinct "culture," especially as kids move toward high school.

This varies from place to place and from coach to coach, but in general I find it to be a derivative of what James called "the wisdom of this world."

Could my kids play T Ball without losing their souls?

I'm sure they could.

But I do not want to feed an appetite that has become a monstrous idol for many Americans.

My sons have footballs, basketballs, baseballs and bats and gloves, and they love to play with other kids in informal settings.

But I choose not to let some ungodly coach with a bloated ego become a figure of massive influence in their lives.

There are other role models I prefer for them.

I wonder if there could be a greater inpact if aposotolic dads became the coaches?

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

I wonder if there could be a greater inpact if aposotolic dads became the coaches?

How is that possible when they're supposed to be in church 4-5 nights a week?

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

One thing some refuse to acknowledge is that competitive athletics has its own distinct "culture," especially as kids move toward high school.

This varies from place to place and from coach to coach, but in general I find it to be a derivative of what James called "the wisdom of this world."

Could my kids play T Ball without losing their souls?

I'm sure they could.

But I do not want to feed an appetite that has become a monstrous idol for many Americans.

My sons have footballs, basketballs, baseballs and bats and gloves, and they love to play with other kids in informal settings.

But I choose not to let some ungodly coach with a bloated ego become a figure of massive influence in their lives.

There are other role models I prefer for them.

This is good, CS, and from a nonparent, it sounds like wisdom to me.

However, we are all smart enough to realize that each parent knows, or should know, their own child well enough to do what is best for them based on that understanding.

I said that to give this example that I heard from Bishop Roland Baker re their son, Roland III...

It seems that young Roland wanted to play baseball in school. His parents told him he could, as long as he did not miss any services. As things would have it, the games fell on Tuesday night...church night at the Apostolic Church of Auburn Hills.

So, they developed a plan...they would take two cars. Bishop would stay as long as he could and leave for service. The moment the game was finished Roland would jump in the car with mom, who had prepared a bag of soap and water...he cleaned up and changed in the car and NEVER missed a service.

Today Roland is married with children of his own, a minister and a wonderful worship/praise leader.

So, it just seems to me that every situation and family is different. I applaud parents who find a path and direction that works best for them and follows it, to the betterment and spiritual advancement of their family.

As I said, I don't have children so these are just my thoughts...

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

How is that possible when they're supposed to be in church 4-5 nights a week?

I read a story about a christian man speaking to a jewish rabbi about why christians are losing a great number of kids while they only lose about 5%. The rabbi answered something like "you christians focus on performance in a building while we focus on home"

I think he's right.

[secretplace]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Don't let them to college then. They must stay out of the business field, which can places of great carnality and competition.

College does wreck some of them sad to say. If they hang and party with all the unsaved youth and miss church, their chances of survival become less. They may be able to handle just going to classes but the extra curricular activities seems to be the worst risk.

They can't be protected from everything especially the necessities. Being on a Sports team is not a necessity.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by secretplace

College does wreck some of them sad to say. If they hang and party with all the unsaved youth and miss church, their chances of survival become less. They may be able to handle just going to classes but the extra curricular activities seems to be the worst risk.

They can't be protected from everything especially the necessities. Being on a Sports team is not a necessity.

Many things we do are not necessities. Hobbies are not necessary. College is not even necessary. The list could go on....


besides the partying, colleges are antigod institutions with the knowledge they gain by the classes are worldly. Even my profession is worldly and antigod. I'm a nurse.

That old saying "in the world but not of it" is so true.

[secretplace]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

One thing some refuse to acknowledge is that competitive athletics has its own distinct "culture," especially as kids move toward high school.

This varies from place to place and from coach to coach, but in general I find it to be a derivative of what James called "the wisdom of this world."

Could my kids play T Ball without losing their souls?

I'm sure they could.

But I do not want to feed an appetite that has become a monstrous idol for many Americans.

My sons have footballs, basketballs, baseballs and bats and gloves, and they love to play with other kids in informal settings.

But I choose not to let some ungodly coach with a bloated ego become a figure of massive influence in their lives.

There are other role models I prefer for them.

I always enjoy your comments. You will never have to say "did I do the wrong thing"?