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Old 11-30-2012, 06:09 AM
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Re: Another Innocent Dead 17 yr Old

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Who justified shooting an unarmed black man because his music was too loud anyways?
Only in JD's mind ,the next time he posts about a black on black tradgedy, will be the first,or black on white ,never heard boo about OJ from lotta blacks ,they still don't think he was guilty.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:31 AM
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So refute what he said. Making faces does not tell us anything. Some of us don't buy into this victimization mentality.
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A young African American was killed by an Hispanic in Florida and we saw who the real racists were. They were President Obama, Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, the African American legislators, the Black Panthers and others who demanded that the Hispanic (they called him white) man be killed, even offering a reward for his murder and posting his address (turned out it was the wrong address).


1) President Obama is not a racist.
2) Al Sharpton's response was completely void of any racism.
3) Jesse Jackson was largely silent during the Martin tragedy.
4) The African American legislators? Which ones? All of them?
5) The Black Panthers are indeed racist, but it was Spike Lee that posted the incorrect address.


There was so much wrong with Sam's post, the seemed the most appropriate response, given my time restraints at the time that I initially read his post.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:33 AM
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Please explain how SYG makes a difference here. If there was a shotgun threat, the shooting was likely justified regardless. If not, it was unjustified regardless.
What is the point of this post?

SYG is the defense of the murderer, but there wasn't a shotgun found because it was never there.
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"Fact, fact ,fact....VICTIM." So far, there has been no trial. So why are we acting like we know what the "facts" are,and whether or not there was a "victim"? This is where you are jumping to conclusions.

Before you mentioned the Martin case. Worry not. It was decided long ago that Zimmerman would be found guilty. There is not going to be an actual trial, just a show.
Because we do know these facts to be facts.
There isn't any jumping to conclusions here in this case.

Everything stated as fact is indeed fact and can be easily verified.
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Because the shooter is white and the victim black.

The rest of us consider that murder. JD see's it as racism. There is a lot of subjective emotionalism behind these kinds of events. Would JD have made this a thread if the kid was white? Probably not since he made it an EMPHASIS to note the kid was black.

When something is emotional, nobody cares about objectivity. People like JD would drag that white man out and beat the crud out of him now without a trial.
Did you even read my post?
Did you see the connection between race and music that I made?

Do you honestly think that if the victim was playing Lynrd Skynrd he would be dead?

How many black 17 yr old kids you know listen to Lynrd Skynrd?

I am not for vigilantism and I am glad that the murderer is locked up behind bars without bond, awaiting trial.


There are people who look a this tragedy and say that race had absolutley nothing involved in this.

While I never said that race was the primary factor, I am informed enough to realize that race probably played a part in this tragedy.
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JD, do you just stumble upon these news incidents? Or do you actively search for them?

And do you never find any 'black on white' violent crime to report on? Or is it all just those evil white waycists committing genocide against the 'poor misunderstood yoots'?

http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/

Racially motivated or racially influenced criminal assaults are not the prerogative of the white man, JD. It's all around, and yes there are some groups (mostly younger, inner-city black and hispanic 'youth associations') who seem to statistically be more disposed to engaging in violent behaviour.
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Maybe he shot the "kid" because he hates rap music, and not because the kid was black? Rap these days is an insult to real music, so maybe the guy just couldn't stand it and snapped.

Maybe he shot him because he had a migraine and the loud music irritated it. The intense pain overruled his decision making abilities and he shot the kid?

Maybe the kid was driving a foreign car and he was a diehard GM guy?

Plenty of reasons why he may have shot him that don't include his being black.
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Maybe he shot the "kid" because he hates rap music, and not because the kid was black? Rap these days is an insult to real music, so maybe the guy just couldn't stand it and snapped.

Maybe he shot him because he had a migraine and the loud music irritated it. The intense pain overruled his decision making abilities and he shot the kid?

Maybe the kid was driving a foreign car and he was a diehard GM guy?

Plenty of reasons why he may have shot him that don't include his being black.
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Why did the guy feel threatened?

You might believe that his threat level was raised, without regard to the race of the occupants in their vehicle.

I don't.
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JD, do you just stumble upon these news incidents? Or do you actively search for them?

And do you never find any 'black on white' violent crime to report on? Or is it all just those evil white waycists committing genocide against the 'poor misunderstood yoots'?

http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/

Racially motivated or racially influenced criminal assaults are not the prerogative of the white man, JD. It's all around, and yes there are some groups (mostly younger, inner-city black and hispanic 'youth associations') who seem to statistically be more disposed to engaging in violent behaviour.

Esaias,
This incident was all over the news down here.
I didn't actively search this story out-- it was one of the YAHOO articles.
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JD, do you just stumble upon these news incidents? Or do you actively search for them?

And do you never find any 'black on white' violent crime to report on? Or is it all just those evil white waycists committing genocide against the 'poor misunderstood yoots'?

http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/

Racially motivated or racially influenced criminal assaults are not the prerogative of the white man, JD. It's all around, and yes there are some groups (mostly younger, inner-city black and hispanic 'youth associations') who seem to statistically be more disposed to engaging in violent behaviour.



The average person in America is not racist and by definition cannot be.

I do believe that a lot of Americans have prejudices, even racial prejudices, that influence how they see the world, how they perceive threats, how they respond to threats, and more.
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