Israel: Always the Villain

[Scott Hutchinson]

The seed of Abraham is Jesus Christ and we who are redeemed are the seed of Abraham by faith,the redeemed are the new covenant seed of Abraham,the book of Galatians tells us this.

[Light]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

The seed of Abraham refers to the seed according to promise = Isaac. Ishmael is a product of Abraham's seed, but he was not the son of promise, he is the son of disobedience.

Gen.22:2 And he (God) said, Take now thy son, thine only [son] Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

[TGBTG]

Gal 3:16
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

Gal 3:16
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Amen.

[deafdriscoll]

As soon as we talked about Islam receiving Jesus he is silent.

[AreYouReady?]

WII, could you please explain the difference between the seed of Abraham and the Khazar Jews?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

WII, could you please explain the difference between the seed of Abraham and the Khazar Jews?

The seed of Abraham are the descendants of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob.

The Khazars were a nation of turkish people (if I recall) who converted to Judaism back in the early middle ages. They lived in what is now Russia and the Ukraine, I believe. They were large and numerous and apparently are the progenitors of the majority of Ashkenazi/European Jews.

Arthur Koestler wrote about them in his book 'the 13th Tribe', for which he has been labelled 'anti-semitic' (even though he was Jewish).

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

Gal 3:16
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

That does not rule out the promises made to the descendants of Abraham, OTHERWISE Christ wouldn't even have been born.

Paul also says - "I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. "

"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

"For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

Who are Israelites: to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen."

So saith the Scripture.

[Scott Hutchinson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgpu_4LiKLA

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgpu_4LiKLA