Ministering to the Transgendered

[Sam]

Originally Posted by ILG

I don't think a possibly victimized person (had sex surgery as a child to create a sex for them) should be revictimized by telling them they can never remarry. I think that is cruel. How wonderful it would be for that person if they could find someone that truly loves them just the way they are.

[BroJoe]

Originally Posted by ILG

I don't think a possibly victimized person (had sex surgery as a child to create a sex for them) should be revictimized by telling them they can never remarry. I think that is cruel. How wonderful it would be for that person if they could find someone that truly loves them just the way they are.

Sure, that's a possibility, I just don't see where "as a child" was in the original post? If that be the case, then of course, my reply would be different.

I was going on the assumption that this person was an adult when this was done to them, then married a male without disclosing the information to that person.

[Aquila]

I think a thorough study of eunuchs, their lifestyles, and the social institutions they were a part of would properly address this issue.

No doubt, much compassion is needed.

[AreYouReady?]

Hi Bro Joe. Glad to see you again.

During this discussion, it has been brought up that there are people who were born with both male and female organs. In their childhood, the parents had to decide on a surgical fix for their gender identity.

I'm not sure if you read far enough down to see this discussion.

The original post does not specify if it was a male having surgery because he "felt" he was a female inside or if this was a child surgery.

I've made the same assumption that you did as the spouse being an adult when surgery was done.

[KeptByTheWord]

Evidently there were "eunuchs" born back in Christ's time from their mother's womb. There were no jet fuel chemicals then, or other such chemicals that could cause genetically mutations back then, that we know of...

We know that Jesus raised the dead, turned water into wine, but there is no writing that he changed a male eunuch into a normal reproductive male.... just sayin....

So.... apparently this is something that happens as part of nature itself, and if you are born that way, apparently that is how God intended you to live, as a "eunuch" according to Matthew 19:12. Here, Jesus was responding to the disciples question... "If the case of the man be so with his wife, then it is not good to marry." They were talking about the issue of adultery. And Jesus answered, all men cannot receive this saying (it is good not to marry), save they to whom it is given.

So it sounds here that Jesus is speaking of those who have received a commandment not to marry, especially in the case of the eunuchs. Perhaps these people who are born genderless.... were given the commandment not to marry?

I don't claim to have the answers at all... just trying to work through this issue myself ... having never thought it through or even realized it was an issue before this thread....

[ILG]

It seems to me that if a genderless person has the desire to marry that saying they shouldn't wouldn't be very fair to them especially if the person they wish to marry is fine with it.

[BeenThinkin]

WOW! Would it be a "biblical marriage" or a marriage of the same sexes?
Hummm!

Been Thinkin

[ILG]

Maybe in these instances the person affected should have some say. I mean, it really defies definition.

[ILG]

In that documentary, there were 2 guys that were both born intersex....and they were living together. If one of them had been assigned female at a young age, no one would have a problem with them living together but since a doctor and some parents decided they were both "male" people think they are gay. But they are not really gay.....ummm, I guess.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by ILG

It seems to me that if a genderless person has the desire to marry that saying they shouldn't wouldn't be very fair to them especially if the person they wish to marry is fine with it.

I agree